es300h terrible leather quality
 

I got ul version with perforated heated and cooled seats and noticed that leather quality isn't there anymore. Seats are showing heavy wear now all wrinkled and bruised on sides looks terrible my previous two lex ls430 and 460 with lots of miles on them (420k and 260k)seats looked like new but leather seemed thicker,heavier. On the es300h leather is soft but wearing bad quickly. Anyone experienced this on his es seats

As much as I like my ES, you do get what you pay for.
Just looking like a LS does not a LS make.

My first Lexus was an LS and every one since then has been as ES. With each new model the quality of the leather seems to go down. They must want us all to buy Nuluxe.

Dave Mac

Did your LS have real leather?

Fake leather/leatherette (or NuLuxe) last much longer, is easier to maintain and doesn't get damaged as much from heated seats than real leather. But real leather looks and feels a lot better IMO.

Yes my ls had real leather my friend bought 13 gs and leather is same like in ls why the es leather is different and cheap we pay for all upgrades same as on ls model mark levinson upgrade cost same as on ls but the sound is so different but money the same,i know leather is standard but why I'm spending 50k for ul version if they put same leather in 20k camry