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whats your mpg on RX450h?

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Old 11-22-17, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by NateJG
That’s interesting. How does a needy 12V battery affect fuel economy? Isn’t the 12 Volt battery’s only contribution to the system merely powering the computer and lighting and accessories only when the engine is not running?
thats what I thought as well. But mpg did improve.
Old 11-22-17, 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by iginoc
Here we go, for the the third tank in a row I am averaging 14 km/l (33 MPG).
Key factors to achieve this result:
1) break in completed (86000 miles)
2) no use of A/C except when *really* needed (the moonroof helps a lot)
2) no short trips (i.e. <1,5 miles) - walking is healty!
3) low resistance tyres (Continental e-Contact 18")
4) high octane fuel
5) mild temperatures (20-25 C)
Most of these points I agree with, however, I have issues with just two of these “factors”:
1) 86,000 miles? Your car should get the same mileage at 20,000 miles as it does at 86,000.
4) High Octane Fuel - This is bs. It’s been proven over & over that normal octane ratings do not effect fuel mileage. It can effect how efficient the fuel is used, but that translates into power produced & The cleanliness of the burn inside the combustion chamber.

A side note about A/C: a car’s a/c does rob power from the engine. However, by rolling down windows at highway speeds, you create more aerodynamic drag & can sometimes decrease your fuel mileage. I have noticed that when it’s really hot here in TX, my A/C will eat the hybrid battery in no time if you aren’t moving/braking much. I don’t know if this is completely normal for this car as this is the 1st hybrid I’ve ever had. After one year of ownership, I can say the cost of buying the hybrid over the standard gasoline RX 350 has not paid off. That’s just one year & 15,000 miles on my RX 450h. I average mid twenties (23-25 mpg) & I have never been close to the sticker’s number of 30 mpg. It’s going on for repairs soon, so we’ll see if there is something wrong or if everything is normal.
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Originally Posted by 703
thats what I thought as well. But mpg did improve.
I suppose if the battery is constantly losing a big chunk of its charge when stopped, or giving up a lot of it's attempted charge as heat instead of stored energy when on the go, that's going to place more demand on the charging system, which eventually comes from gasoline burning. As a side note, I recently put 3 tanks in a row as record high MPG after I moved to a new place (almost 32mpg), and that's on a 12V that is over 8 years old now. The cooler weather has now put a stop to new records for now though.
Old 11-27-17, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by NateJG
How does Mrs. Mellon's gas mileage compare in the hybrid to that which she saw from her most recent car (assuming her routes and technique are similar)?
we had a regular RX for a loaner, which Mrs. MellonC drove for a while. the MPG was dismal at 17mpg. Thus, the 22 mpg she got from our 450h was still an improvement......... at some point, however, the lead-footing has to stop
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did a recent round trip from Los Angeles to Las Vegas. On the way there, it was slow/stop and go traffic which netted about 25.1 mpg. On the way back, super early in the morning, my friend who drove the car, kept the cruise control at 77mph the whole time (exact avg speed was 73 mph including some local roads). The mpg came out to 23.5 over 260 miles.
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Originally Posted by MellonC00
MPG was dismal at 17mpg. Thus, the 22 mpg she got from our 450h was still an improvement
Even though I would normally wince, and hold my nose at 22mpg, that's still almost a 30% improvement. That's excellent.

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Old 11-28-17, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NateJG
We’ve just stopped for the night at 850 miles into our 1,300 mile North-South trek; and the ‘13 RXh is at 23.3 MPG for the last two days at the speed limit +- 5.

The car’s loaded to the gills - and has a large Thule on the roof.

It was about the same MPG on the last trip.
With all of that, I’d say that’s pretty good!
Old 11-29-17, 05:03 AM
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Agreed. And when in high-speed congested traffic, in Sport mode, the agility and acceleration is quite satisfying.

In congested traffic, I use Sport; on long boring runs - economy; and most of the time = normal (I can’t tell any difference in fuel economy between the three settings when on a highway).

I’d love to read how a comparably-loaded RX350 does.
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Originally Posted by NateJG
Agreed. And when in high-speed congested traffic, in Sport mode, the agility and acceleration is quite satisfying.

In congested traffic, I use Sport; on long boring runs - economy; and most of the time = normal (I can’t tell any difference in fuel economy between the three settings when on a highway).

I’d love to read how a comparably-loaded RX350 does.
I set mine opposite of you. The economy setting has such mushy steering, that I set it to Sport on the open road & economy around town. Like you, I haven’t noticed any difference in fuel economy between the two settings.
Old 11-30-17, 07:50 AM
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I don't drive my wife's car too often, but when I do I ALWAYS put it on sport mode. So much more enjoyable. It seems like a dog when taking off in Eco mode and you keep having to give it more throttle to get it to move, especially since I'm used to my torque monster Cummins diesel Ram 2500. I wish there was a way to default it to that setting so I don't have to keep changing it from Eco mode. She just gets in and drives it no matter what mode it's in. Either way it is always around 30 mpg in combination city/highway driving.
Old 12-02-17, 12:45 PM
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My RX 450H has 36,000 miles. I was getting 28-29 mpg on the original Dunlop tires (set at 33 psi cold). Got new Michelin Defender tires about two weeks ago, same size as Dunlops and on door sticker, filled to 33 psi cold, and my mpg has dropped to about 25-26 mpg. Can't figure out why. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by nklussman
My RX 450H has 36,000 miles. I was getting 28-29 mpg on the original Dunlop tires (set at 33 psi cold). Got new Michelin Defender tires about two weeks ago, same size as Dunlops and on door sticker, filled to 33 psi cold, and my mpg has dropped to about 25-26 mpg. Can't figure out why. Any advice would be appreciated.
Wow, I just can't imagine properly inflated tires of the same size dropping your mileage that much. My guess would be you just happened to fill up with a "winter blend" of gas after using the summer blend. I believe California is now using the stuff.
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Originally Posted by nklussman
My RX 450H has 36,000 miles. I was getting 28-29 mpg on the original Dunlop tires (set at 33 psi cold). Got new Michelin Defender tires about two weeks ago, same size as Dunlops and on door sticker, filled to 33 psi cold, and my mpg has dropped to about 25-26 mpg. Can't figure out why. Any advice would be appreciated.
Are the Defender tires the same as what Lexus is putting on (not talking tire size)? I have yet to see Dunlops on a RX. I have Bridgestone & they are OEM low rolling resistance. One thing to check on each of your 4 tires is a rolling directional arrow. Make sure its pointing forward. I had 2 motorcycles that needed new tires & they had 2 tires mounted wrong, one on each bike & this was a motorcycle dealer! I’m convinced dealers hire idiots to do tire duties.
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Tires are always low rolling resistance when they are close to bald. As such, new tires may knock off a couple of mpg's when new. Wait 6 months and let the edges of the tread soften up a bit.

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My latest MPG (in town, commuting by myself) has gone up a full 1 mpg to about 26.5 mpg. I have not had to use the A/C often but it wasn't cold enough to use the heat setting often either.
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Every modern engine is designed to be able to slightly retard the spark advance if it senses pinging due to lowered octane. If the engine is set for premium fuel, then it will achieve a bit more horsepower and economy on premium; it will still run happily on regular, just not be quite as good with the numbers.

On my 2010 RX450h I use nothing but regular, and engine is perfectly fine. Mileage is in the high-20s for both city and highway (once the engine is warmed up).


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