Lexus HS 250h...revealed Jan. 11
01-11-09, 09:55 AM
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Yes, we do know the car is about Fuel Economy. But people asked for a Lexus like Prius. You know, a Lexus with wood trim, leather, an elegant design. They didnt ask for a Toyota with a Lexus badge. 
What I think is that people are accepting a half assed effort by Lexus when we KNOW they are capable of much more. I dont buy the statement that hybrid buyers dont want wood trim in their vehicles. Was that the same reason to decrease the amount of wood trim in the GS, RX, ES, and LS? Sounds like an excuse/cover up to promote cost cutting. And yes, the RX debuted with aluminum trim, but wood trim quickly became an option later.
And nah, I cant give them props for dropping an old Camry Hybrid engine into a brand new Lexus. For what? Why?!! What about the new I-4 engines? They could have used that, or the other engine technologies they use in the JDM Toyota's.
And yes it has Lexus Enform and LED headlights and all that other tech stuff. It's SUPPOSED to have that.
I'm sorry, but I should expect the best from Lexus. This is NOT the best from Lexus IMO. I can't accept this when I know they have the potential and capability to do much more. This car could have been outstanding. But its lukewarm at best.
What I think is that people are accepting a half assed effort by Lexus when we KNOW they are capable of much more. I dont buy the statement that hybrid buyers dont want wood trim in their vehicles. Was that the same reason to decrease the amount of wood trim in the GS, RX, ES, and LS? Sounds like an excuse/cover up to promote cost cutting. And yes, the RX debuted with aluminum trim, but wood trim quickly became an option later.
And nah, I cant give them props for dropping an old Camry Hybrid engine into a brand new Lexus. For what? Why?!! What about the new I-4 engines? They could have used that, or the other engine technologies they use in the JDM Toyota's.
And yes it has Lexus Enform and LED headlights and all that other tech stuff. It's SUPPOSED to have that.
I'm sorry, but I should expect the best from Lexus. This is NOT the best from Lexus IMO. I can't accept this when I know they have the potential and capability to do much more. This car could have been outstanding. But its lukewarm at best.
I am not sure why the new 2.5 was not used except that they will eventually upgrade to it. I am assuming the 2.5 was not available at the time to develop into a hybrid.
To be honest G, I think its not just this Lexus. The exteriors of the IS convertible, 3RX and now this have just left us cold. The interiors are something we as "old" (though we are young lol) Lexus nuts are something we will have to get used to. Lexus is not going back!
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01-11-09, 09:58 AM
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EXACTLY!
what the hell is the purpose of the car? ITS JUST NOT NECESSARY.
an absolute embrassment to lexus. Youd be the biggest fool to feel good about buying this thing when you can just get a prius that serves its purpose...this thing is just a "feel good your driving a lexus badge"...when it adds nothing more than that
what the hell is the purpose of the car? ITS JUST NOT NECESSARY.
an absolute embrassment to lexus. Youd be the biggest fool to feel good about buying this thing when you can just get a prius that serves its purpose...this thing is just a "feel good your driving a lexus badge"...when it adds nothing more than that
01-11-09, 10:06 AM
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01-11-09, 10:07 AM
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What kills me is that this ordinary hybrid will still sell like hotcakes when it could have been something real special.
01-11-09, 10:08 AM
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Where's my $5????
I told you this thing would look sh:tty
yes, It does looks like an aftermarket mod of a corolla.
at 184" in length, they should've just slapped a hybrid into the is250.
This car is one step in the same direction as Acura, and has been hit twice with the ugly stick.
I agree that this car does not look like it belongs in the lexus family.
One thing I hate with a passion about lexus is that they seem too scared to get creative with the sheet metal. A few more creases would've been better.
and fkin FIRE the guys who design the lexus rear end. WTF is up with making everything look cheap and ugly like the RX butt?
those tail lights are one of the ugliest non-luxury looking lights i've ever seen. They're even unworthy of being put on a mazda. the taillight design is cheap, and the clear is gimmicky.
the only saving grace is that mercedes is about equal in the ugly department now.
I told you this thing would look sh:tty
yes, It does looks like an aftermarket mod of a corolla.
at 184" in length, they should've just slapped a hybrid into the is250.
This car is one step in the same direction as Acura, and has been hit twice with the ugly stick.
I agree that this car does not look like it belongs in the lexus family.
One thing I hate with a passion about lexus is that they seem too scared to get creative with the sheet metal. A few more creases would've been better.
and fkin FIRE the guys who design the lexus rear end. WTF is up with making everything look cheap and ugly like the RX butt?
those tail lights are one of the ugliest non-luxury looking lights i've ever seen. They're even unworthy of being put on a mazda. the taillight design is cheap, and the clear is gimmicky.
the only saving grace is that mercedes is about equal in the ugly department now.
01-11-09, 10:10 AM
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well...i cant say it looks good, but i dont hate it either.
i really like the front, the side profile and the rear are complete IS rip offs. its kinda like those chinese brands that were copying car designs from everyone else. 187 horsepower is NOT ENOUGH in a luxury hybrid. it should have at least crossed the 200 mark. In many ways, this car is a disapointment, but it cant say that it wont sell
i really like the front, the side profile and the rear are complete IS rip offs. its kinda like those chinese brands that were copying car designs from everyone else. 187 horsepower is NOT ENOUGH in a luxury hybrid. it should have at least crossed the 200 mark. In many ways, this car is a disapointment, but it cant say that it wont sell
01-11-09, 10:10 AM
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What is sad is that if you looked at just some elements of the design and never saw the whole picture, you would think this was a great looking car.
Those angles are all particularly good IMO...if I saw just those before today I would have thought this was going to be a great looking car. The overall picture though is just bland and disappointing.
Those angles are all particularly good IMO...if I saw just those before today I would have thought this was going to be a great looking car. The overall picture though is just bland and disappointing.
01-11-09, 10:17 AM
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IS250 is heavy, RWD vehicle which would get 28mpg and be *** slow at it. Not only that, you still would not be able to fit child seats at the back, and trunk would still be tiny :-).
As silly as it is, this is just what Lexus needed in Europe, and I hope it gets sold here. My old Prius had more space at front, back and trunk than my GS350, while being 3 sizes smaller vehicle.
As silly as it is, this is just what Lexus needed in Europe, and I hope it gets sold here. My old Prius had more space at front, back and trunk than my GS350, while being 3 sizes smaller vehicle.
01-11-09, 10:18 AM
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the worst part about this car is that it has the ugliest (like the RX) clear brake lights area in the world
I wonder if that trunk spoiler is optional, cause it aint helping the design
I wonder if that trunk spoiler is optional, cause it aint helping the design