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Old 02-07-19, 01:36 PM
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2010 Luxury Package owner with factory remote start. Works fine but is there any way to open/get in the car without it killing the engine? Seems silly that the second you unlock a door it kills the engine.
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Old 02-07-19, 02:03 PM
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From what I've read, it's a security thing that Lexus put in place. Does the same when I start my GX from my remote or the iPhone app (engine shuts off when door is opened, after 10 minutes of running, etc)... If you find a way around it, I'd like to know!
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All remote start on the GX will shutdown the engine when the door is opened. Some other makes shut down when you step on the brakes.
This is security feature and can not be by-passed or at least no one knows how.


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2010 Luxury Package owner with factory remote start. Works fine but is there any way to open/get in the car without it killing the engine? Seems silly that the second you unlock a door it kills the engine.
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Old 02-08-19, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lionsfan54 View Post
2010 Luxury Package owner with factory remote start. Works fine but is there any way to open/get in the car without it killing the engine? Seems silly that the second you unlock a door it kills the engine.
Yea this will be fixed in 2030, when Toyota finally gets the message that their indeed is a better way.
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Old 02-10-19, 08:23 AM
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This is done so you don't get ticketed. This is actually a feature that allows you to have the car running unattended preventing you from getting a Puffer ticket.
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This is done so you don't get ticketed. This is actually a feature that allows you to have the car running unattended preventing you from getting a Puffer ticket.
Ticketed? Most puffer laws exempt remote starters. The car is locked when the remote start occurs. Why does it have to shut off when you unlock to enter the vehicle? The fob is in your pocket; it has to be in order to open the locked door. In a traditional car you would have to insert the key and turn it on but we don't have that limitation. We should be able to just jump in and go.
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Old 02-10-19, 01:42 PM
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This is done so you don't get ticketed. This is actually a feature that allows you to have the car running unattended preventing you from getting a Puffer ticket.
I assume your being sarcastic lol

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Is It Legal to Leave a Car Running Unattended?

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Whenever cold weather approaches, there is an increase in the number of people who leave their cars running unattended in an effort to warm them up before driving anywhere. While this might be good for the engine and make for a toasty commute, it may not always be legal.
Some car thieves refer to the practice of leaving a vehicle running while unattended “puffing.” The word “puffing” refers to the puffs of steam that often emanate from a car's exhaust on a cold morning as it warms up. Car thieves look for cars that are “puffing” because they literally have to do nothing more than walk up and drive away.

In other instances, leaving a car running while unattended could be like leaving a loaded gun on the coffee table with small kids in the house. Anyone could hop into the driver's seat, including children, and cause all kinds of mayhem, either intentionally or accidentally. Just as there can be civil and sometimes criminal liability for knowingly letting someone drive who is impaired or intoxicated, so too is there a possibility for liability in being so reckless as to leave a vehicle unattended when running where anyone could get into it and begin operating it.

In response, a number of states and local municipalities have passed laws regarding the practice of leaving vehicles unattended while running. For example, Colorado bans the practice entirely and will ticket owners found running their cars or trucks with nobody behind the wheel. Arizona, on the other hand, has a time limit, allowing one to leave a vehicle unattended and running for five minutes or less. There are a wide variety of other variations, but an increasing number of states and municipalities are trying to discourage the seemingly innocent, but often risky practice.

Aside from direct criminal laws against leaving a vehicle running while unattended, there is also a possibility for civil liability. Insurance coverage might not apply to a vehicle stolen because the owner left it running while unattended. Check your policy and ask your agent to find out for sure. Similarly, anyone injured, or any property damage occurring as a result of someone operating the vehicle who should not have been but was able to simply because it was left running may have a claim against the owner of the vehicle (or the person who left it running unattended) for negligence. In some cases it could even be considered grossly negligent and could result in greater liability and even punitive damages.

As a result, while not every jurisdiction has a specific law against leaving a vehicle running while unattended, many do, and the number is growing. Regardless of whether there is a specific law prohibiting the practice, there will always be a chance for significant civil liability resulting from leaving a vehicle running unattended, so it is unwise simply from the standpoint of opening oneself up to a lawsuit. Moreover, insurance may not apply to damages or injuries caused by an accident that occurred only because the owner (or insured driver) left the vehicle running unattended.

For more information about the legality of this practice in your jurisdiction you should contact a local attorney. This is particularly true if an injury or loss has occurred as a result of leaving a vehicle running while unattended. For a list of attorneys in your area, please visit the Law Firms page on our website at HG.org/lawfirms.html.


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So Toyota has the foresight to design vehicles specifically for those jurisdictions that have puffer laws, and every other manufacturer doesn't.....I heavily doubt that. Toyota Remote starters have been on the market for ages, and practice the if it aint broke, dont fix it policy. Just like the slowest adaption of Android Auto, unless Toyota has a reason they wont move on it.
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There is a very, very simple logic that would satisfy both owners who only want to start the car once and those who wish to prevent theft (everyone): ONLY KILL THE IGNITION IF THE DOOR HANDLE IS PULLED WITHOUT THE PROXIMITY KEY BEING IN RANGE.

Toyota: you may PM me for the address to send my check.
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Originally Posted by kgbagent1 View Post
There is a very, very simple logic that would satisfy both owners who only want to start the car once and those who wish to prevent theft (everyone): ONLY KILL THE IGNITION IF THE DOOR HANDLE IS PULLED WITHOUT THE PROXIMITY KEY BEING IN RANGE.

Toyota: you may PM me for the address to send my check.
That would be too intelligent.
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Then you probably hear a bunch of complains about "I left my keyfob in the house more than 30 ft away and the car still shut off when I opened the door".

"Or someone stole my car while it was idling and my keyfob is behind the closed garage door only 5 ft from it, why didn't Lexus program it to lock automatically?" LOL
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