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Old 08-09-17, 07:31 AM   #1
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Is anyone towing a travel trailer with the GX460?
How big and any issues?
I have the 2012 GX460 premium, I don't think weight will be an issue, but what about extended mirror options or brakes?
Any suggestions are appreciated, I will be towing in the west Texas area, elevations around 5000-6000.
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Not towing any travel trailers at this point. Probably around 3K lbs with some cut firewood.

Here is thread on trailer brakes.

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...e-control.html
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Handles my boat well.


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Handles my boat well.

Ive towed the same boat a z21 commanche with an escalade and the GX. escalade pulled it better but the gx overall handled and braked better. is that the 250 merc verado?
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Ive towed the same boat a z21 commanche with an escalade and the GX. escalade pulled it better but the gx overall handled and braked better. is that the 250 merc verado?
It's a Z521, a different hull design but close to the z21's. Not the Verado (4-stroke), it's a 250 Pro XS (2-stroke).

My normal tow vehicle is an older F-150 with 5.4 Triton V8. The GX pulls better from a standing start, probably because of torque and gearing. The F-150 is a little more stable in the bends and braking. I guess we saw the exact opposite comparing the GX to our other tow vehicles. The Escalade probably has the 6.2L V8 which has torque to spare. I'm surprised the Caddy didn't handle better.

To the OP, with a travel trailer the towing mirror's would definitely help out. Not really needed with my boat, but I could see it being a problem with a camper behind the GX. The GX definitely has the power, but I would make sure you have a good set of trailer brakes. My boat trailer has surge brakes and they seem to work well.

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I have not towed with it yet, but towed a lot of other things. So good reading is available at DOT. Probably the MOST important thing is tongue weight. If its correct, it makes for pleasurable towing, if its wrong it's DEADLY! Then trailer brakes are a must on our over crowded highways. The GX has only a 1000 lb towing capacity without trailer brakes. Federal law requires trailer brakes for any trailer over 3000 lbs. Read up on the owners manual. Most states have a 55 mph speed limit while towing, very good reason for that, and a good idea to observe it. I usually like to take the mfg tow rating, and cut it in half. I find that to be a really nice area to be in for towing.
But my impression driving this car, it would be a pretty good tow vehicle for its size.
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Owner's manual may say one thing for warranty but legally in my state as long as I don't exceed 3k lbs GVWR I don't need trailer brakes. I've towed seveal times a bunch of firewood that probably weighed close to 3k lbs including trailer weight. I could hardly feel it was back there. My little Mazda CX-5 can tow up to 2k lbs legally as well without trailer brakes. Not diminishing need for trailer brakes in any way but GX is far more capable than a 1k lb load towing without trailer brakes.

http://drivinglaws.aaa.com/tag/trailer-brakes/
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Not saying it isn't capable of towing more than 1000 lbs without trailer brakes, just stating what I read in the manual. Lexus says, over 1000 lbs requires trailer brakes. Been a couple months since I read the manual, but that's what I remember.
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LX manual says the same thing about 1K and unbraked ... Toyota appears to be overly cautious in their ratings... to a level that would certainly eliminate any chance of litigation.

They have been adamant about adhering to SAE J2807 standards... not saying wrong... but seems needle on some things may have swung a little too extreme levels IMO....


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I'm sure the lawyers had a lot to say about it. I think you are absolutely correct about that. that same lawyer will be asking you questions in court.............................."So the owners manual states; that trailers over 1000 lbs require trailer brakes. How much did your trailer weigh when you couldn't stop, and hit that other car, where people died?" Answer, "Ah I dunno." Lawyer....................".You did read the manual, cover to cover, DIDNT YOU?" "What,!!!!? you didn't read and understand the manual?" That borders on negligent homicide! Oh wait, you did read the manual, but chose to ignore it knowing full well the ramifications................... ETC ETC, ETC. This nightmare doesn't end well, for anybody, well, except for the well paid lawyer.
Too bad, since I think the car MAY be very capable of doing much more than the stated 1000 lbs. Anybody know what the manual says in other less litigious countries? I'm curious now.
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I tow a KZ Sportmen Classic that is 3500lbs GVWR. Empty it is 2350lbs. It is 16 feet long but only 7 feet wide. I use a brake controller but no extended mirrors. Tows great. I particularly like the steering wheel angle in the center display when I'm backing. Fuel economy drops to 10-12 depending on terrain and speed. When hitched, the whole rig fits in two parking spaces. I think if my trailer was wider, I'd want mirror extensions. But as it is, being short and narrow, I'm comfortable towing without.
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Agreed, its craziness. I don't know how they figure those ratings. Anybody know? I have asked dealers, both car and trailer dealers. Haven't gotten any decent responses,(Didn't expect to anyway). I would think, since the 4Runner and GX are so similar, but the gX weighs ~1000 lbs more. Then it makes sense that to get the 4 runner stopped would be easier than getting the GX stopped. I expect the brakes are pretty much the same on both cars. so the 4 runner would have excess brake energy available that the GX doesn't.
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So this opens up another question,(I know I coulda searched for this, but I'm lazy) What brake controllers are you using? I have a Prodigy 1 (I think) sitting on the shelf. Took it out of a previous car that we towed with. Would that be a good fit, and where did you mount the controller? Or is there a $$$$$$$ Toyota one that fits in the dash someplace, and looks like it belong there.
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Not aware of an in-dash install point. The controller connector is to the left of the emergency brake pedal.

Did dealer leave the internal harness connector with your vehicle when you bought it?


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