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magnetic ride control is way to go. maybe lexus catches on one day
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Originally Posted by Oldmanb777
(Post 9801433)
I would also guess the LX/Land cruiser's get used harder than the GX. It has aftermarket off road mods readily available, and like the 4 Runner is probably used in that capacity more. Where the GX is probably used as soccer mom grocery getter .It probably does more towing duties etc.
If I remember right the new Land cruiser has the air ride suspension just like the LX. |
Originally Posted by JTACK
(Post 11384933)
Neither of them have air suspension. They have hydraulic suspension to raise and lower the vehicle ride height.
However, no experience on GX air suspension as both of these have standard suspension. Per my Lexus Tech, air suspension is pretty robust for GX and not as expensive as LS air suspension. I was looking for Lux version last year but ended up buying BL edition as l like the Green color. Mine 2011 LS 460 air suspension was replaced last year before I sold that vehicle. Vehicle has around 145k miles. It was around 7k to replace all four, but thanks to Lexus warranty, it was covered 100%. |
Never air suspension on any LX
Originally Posted by BradTank
(Post 9801495)
Interesting, so they switched from an air suspension to hydraulic. Well the point still stands it's WAY more complex than simple steel coils. I know I wouldn't want to deal with a service issue on it down the road.
It looks like on the Land Cruiser, the front is now steel coils and the rear is air bags. So the two have a different suspension with the Lexus being more complex. I guess if you drop $100k on a car, you don't really care about this stuff. But it would make me nervous on a car outside of a warranty. On my old GX the air suspension went out on a road trip, it was not fun. I have a relative with a Mercedes S class and the front air suspension went out, it was like $6,000 for just the front. the only consideration one should have about LX vs LC or GX for that matter Re suspension, is are you OK with factory or do you need to have aftermarket suspension. If aftermarket is essential, the LX with its active suspension will be more complicated. |
First I never drove or owned LX before, so my comment is sort of logical guesswork.
If everything else being equal, I am inclined to say LX will not be more reliable than GX for 3 reasons: 1. LX is produced at a low volume factory for top line Lexus cars like LC. GX is produced at famed Tahara factory which also produces 4Runner. I would guess Tahara QC is gold standard across all Toyota factories. 2. LX has more advanced and complex components vs GX (hence potential breaks). This is not related to Lexus but for all systems we human produce. 3. Mindset behind top line cars of each luxury make is performance and cool features. Reliability is probably not focus of the manufacturer including Lexus for this targeted market. |
Originally Posted by william489
(Post 11385591)
First I never drove or owned LX before, so my comment is sort of logical guesswork.
If everything else being equal, I am inclined to say LX will not be more reliable than GX for 3 reasons: 1. LX is produced at a low volume factory for top line Lexus cars like LC. GX is produced at famed Tahara factory which also produces 4Runner. I would guess Tahara QC is gold standard across all Toyota factories. 2. LX has more advanced and complex components vs GX (hence potential breaks). This is not related to Lexus but for all systems we human produce. 3. Mindset behind top line cars of each luxury make is performance and cool features. Reliability is probably not focus of the manufacturer including Lexus for this targeted market. LX and GX and LC are produced at same manufacture in Japan. LX(LC) are not necessary the “low volume” as you might think. In fact, other than North American market, LX(LC) exceeds GX in volume. Besides, just because of volume and more complex does not mean lower in quality or reliability. In fact, all LC family vehicles has been on top of the list in terms of liability for long history. Personally speaking, I don’t really see difference between LX and GX. |
Originally Posted by hzhao
(Post 11385642)
Couple of corrections:
LX and GX and LC are produced at same manufacture in Japan. LX(LC) are not necessary the “low volume” as you might think. In fact, other than North American market, LX(LC) exceeds GX in volume. Besides, just because of volume and more complex does not mean lower in quality or reliability. In fact, all LC family vehicles has been on top of the list in terms of liability for long history. Personally speaking, I don’t really see difference between LX and GX. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...1ca122ca59.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...01c3ee20b4.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...efaba266ea.jpg It seems to me LX, GX and LC500 are made at different factories per wiki (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...yota_factories) Sorry for the confusion I mean LC500 the race car, not land cruiser. David likes tahara plant lot and motomachi plant has most experts and build low volume models. |
Originally Posted by william489
(Post 11385591)
First I never drove or owned LX before, so my comment is sort of logical guesswork.
If everything else being equal, I am inclined to say LX will not be more reliable than GX for 3 reasons: 1. LX is produced at a low volume factory for top line Lexus cars like LC. GX is produced at famed Tahara factory which also produces 4Runner. I would guess Tahara QC is gold standard across all Toyota factories. 2. LX has more advanced and complex components vs GX (hence potential breaks). This is not related to Lexus but for all systems we human produce. 3. Mindset behind top line cars of each luxury make is performance and cool features. Reliability is probably not focus of the manufacturer including Lexus for this targeted market. |
Originally Posted by gfcipriani
(Post 11385883)
LX and Land cruisers (80, 100, 200, 300 series) are designed and manufactured to a very high standard, 20 year useful life. The level of robustness and quality exceeds all other Toyota platforms. Just because some of the systems are “more complicated”, it is no less reliable than a GX. In fact, it has been designed and manufactured to standards that exceed the 120, 150 LCs/GXs.
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Totally agree that j70 and j200 land cruisers are the best. It is a joy reading below article. A pre-owned LX 570 would be best option one day for me.
https://www.wellrigged.com/most-reli...-land-cruiser/ |
I've had both an LX and a GX, and something else to consider is even if we assume reliability will be the same, parts prices on LXs are quite a bit higher due to their lower production numbers.
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