Radiator Replacement?
#1
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Radiator Replacement?
I have a 2005 GX 470 with 62K miles. I recent post on this forum mentioned a common problem relating to the radiator - can anyone elaborate? I wasn't aware of radiators issues and haven't considered replacing unless needed. I don't see any rust on the radiator and have no reason to believe there are any rust issues. Is the radiator replaced for general preventative maintenance like the timing belt and water pump, or did I misunderstand the recent post?
#2
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Radiator preventative replacement
I have a 2005 GX 470 with 62K miles. I recent post on this forum mentioned a common problem relating to the radiator - can anyone elaborate? I wasn't aware of radiators issues and haven't considered replacing unless needed. I don't see any rust on the radiator and have no reason to believe there are any rust issues. Is the radiator replaced for general preventative maintenance like the timing belt and water pump, or did I misunderstand the recent post?
The failure is not what you think it may be, it's the possible breach of the transmission cooler which is internal to the radiator.
If the internal transmission cooler starts leaking inside the radiator, you will end up with engine coolant inside the transmission, and possibly damaging it.
You could do 1 or 2 things, (or 3 as doing nothing),
1- have an external transmission cooler installed, which eliminates the coolant in the tranny problem, or
2- have a new radiator installed, and continue to use the internal tranny cooler, knowing it will last many years before you need to worry again.
I just purchased a 2006 GX with 128K and a factiory radiator. first thing I did before I drove it anywhere was to have a new radiator installed.
No worries about the strawberry milkshake in the tranny, at the same time I had ALL fluids and filters in the GX changed, now I have a good base line to work from
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...mikeshake.html
here is a toyota link, same problem
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/269-4runner-3rd-generation-1996-2002/365634-strawberry-milkshake-syndrome.html
A new radiator is a lot cheaper than a tranny
#3
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The other thing that happens is the end-caps will loosen up as the result of age and start to leak. You can spot this by the presence of red-crystals (dried-out coolant) on the ends. For a 2005 it's getting to be about that time, so you should think about getting it replaced.
Chip H.
Chip H.
#4
Driver
Thread Starter
Thanks for the replies guys. Is this something I can have done at an independent shop, or does it need to be at a Toyota dealership? I don't have a local Lexus dealership. If independent, I would be able to purchase the radiator myself. Any specific brand? A brilliant ClubLexus member turned me on to the great website, Rock Auto. There is a Denso radiator, which I think is the original manufacturer, or Nissens radiator which indicates OE and is much more expensive. I'm fine with paying more for products if it's for quality.
#5
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Denso is good. Any competent service shop can replace it. While the engine isn't sensitive to the type of coolant (anything rated for aluminum blocks should be OK), you'll get best results from using the OEM Toyota long-life coolant.
Consider replacing the thermostat at the same time. Or not, if it was done when the timing belt was changed.
Chip H.
Consider replacing the thermostat at the same time. Or not, if it was done when the timing belt was changed.
Chip H.
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For what it's worth, I just replaced my radiator earlier today and it took me about an hour and a half. Honestly it's fairly simple and straight forward. I could have probably done in about an hour if I didn't take my time. You just need a couple of long socket extensions to get the lower bolt and take off the upper radiator hose instead of going for the lower one.
The Stealership charged me $500 for a radiator that leak (and was not OEM), was replaced, and leaked again. It seems like the idiots at the service department over tightened and stripped the transmission cooler connections. I used some Teflon tape and tightened them slightly snug. If you have the time, do this job yourself.
The Stealership charged me $500 for a radiator that leak (and was not OEM), was replaced, and leaked again. It seems like the idiots at the service department over tightened and stripped the transmission cooler connections. I used some Teflon tape and tightened them slightly snug. If you have the time, do this job yourself.
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For what it's worth, I just replaced my radiator earlier today and it took me about an hour and a half. Honestly it's fairly simple and straight forward. I could have probably done in about an hour if I didn't take my time. You just need a couple of long socket extensions to get the lower bolt and take off the upper radiator hose instead of going for the lower one.
The Stealership charged me $500 for a radiator that leak (and was not OEM), was replaced, and leaked again. It seems like the idiots at the service department over tightened and stripped the transmission cooler connections. I used some Teflon tape and tightened them slightly snug. If you have the time, do this job yourself.
The Stealership charged me $500 for a radiator that leak (and was not OEM), was replaced, and leaked again. It seems like the idiots at the service department over tightened and stripped the transmission cooler connections. I used some Teflon tape and tightened them slightly snug. If you have the time, do this job yourself.
Great at job getting it done in 1.5 hours. Took me more like 4. I’m obviously VERY slow when it comes to wrenching lol!
#9
Can you elaborate on what the dealership screwed up? I just replaced the radiator myself last week, and I simply removed the 2 transmission hoses from the radiator, nothing to tighten, just hose clamps.
Great at job getting it done in 1.5 hours. Took me more like 4. I’m obviously VERY slow when it comes to wrenching lol!
#10
Here's a great(Or so I think) video (s) on how to replace the Radiator on a GX470:
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For what it's worth, I just replaced my radiator earlier today and it took me about an hour and a half. Honestly it's fairly simple and straight forward. I could have probably done in about an hour if I didn't take my time. You just need a couple of long socket extensions to get the lower bolt and take off the upper radiator hose instead of going for the lower one.
The Stealership charged me $500 for a radiator that leak (and was not OEM), was replaced, and leaked again. It seems like the idiots at the service department over tightened and stripped the transmission cooler connections. I used some Teflon tape and tightened them slightly snug. If you have the time, do this job yourself.
The Stealership charged me $500 for a radiator that leak (and was not OEM), was replaced, and leaked again. It seems like the idiots at the service department over tightened and stripped the transmission cooler connections. I used some Teflon tape and tightened them slightly snug. If you have the time, do this job yourself.
Can you elaborate on what the dealership screwed up? I just replaced the radiator myself last week, and I simply removed the 2 transmission hoses from the radiator, nothing to tighten, just hose clamps.
Great at job getting it done in 1.5 hours. Took me more like 4. I’m obviously VERY slow when it comes to wrenching lol!
#13
I am going to replace the radiator sometime this winter.Were you guys able to remove the clamps on radiator hoses with a large pliers? I read somewhere that you needed a special too to remove the clamps.Where are you getting the radiators and what brand are they? How much trans fluid do you think circulates within the radiator? What mileage do you have when replacing the radiator? I am just over 176,000.There is never coolant on the ground,but,it does leak.
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I am going to replace the radiator sometime this winter.Were you guys able to remove the clamps on radiator hoses with a large pliers? I read somewhere that you needed a special too to remove the clamps.Where are you getting the radiators and what brand are they? How much trans fluid do you think circulates within the radiator? What mileage do you have when replacing the radiator? I am just over 176,000.There is never coolant on the ground,but,it does leak.
The tool is is great to have and is well worth $20.
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I replaced the radiator on the 08 last year. It took several hours but I took my time. This is the clamp I used