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Old 06-27-17, 07:08 AM
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I am buying a 2007 Lexus GX 470 today, with 114 K miles, (no spark plugs change or water pump change) didn’t pass emissions test last February 2007 and Dealer will pass emission test before I buy it, but I notice that the card had slow response to acceleration ( It almost feel like to heavy, compare to the other 3 same cars that I drive), could this be due to a catalytic issue or mostly tune up.
I am closing the deal today any suggestions.
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Old 06-27-17, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ericcb
I am buying a 2007 Lexus GX 470 today, with 114 K miles, (no spark plugs change or water pump change) didn’t pass emissions test last February 2007 and Dealer will pass emission test before I buy it, but I notice that the card had slow response to acceleration ( It almost feel like to heavy, compare to the other 3 same cars that I drive), could this be due to a catalytic issue or mostly tune up.
I am closing the deal today any suggestions.
thanks

Welcome to CL.

Since you're in mile-high Denver, part of the acceleration problem could be the thin air lowering the engine's power....that is often a problem, without a turbo, in high-altitude Western areas, though it wouldn't necessarily explain the more-normal acceleration of the other three cars you mention, unless they are turbos. Also, since it didn't pass emissions, you might (?) be looking at a plugged-up catalyst. Is the Check-Engine light on? Also, keep in mind that the GX is heavy by its very nature (truck-based, with a body-on-frame design), and, even under the best of conditions, is not going to accelerate or handle like a more sport-oriented sedan.
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Originally Posted by mmarshall
Welcome to CL.

Since you're in mile-high Denver, part of the acceleration problem could be the thin air lowering the engine's power....that is often a problem, without a turbo, in high-altitude Western areas, though it wouldn't necessarily explain the more-normal acceleration of the other three cars you mention, unless they are turbos. Also, since it didn't pass emissions, you might (?) be looking at a plugged-up catalyst. Is the Check-Engine light on? Also, keep in mind that the GX is heavy by its very nature (truck-based, with a body-on-frame design), and, even under the best of conditions, is not going to accelerate or handle like a more sport-oriented sedan.

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No check-engine light, Last week I drove 3 similar vehicles and it is different felling on the response time to acceleration, my biggest concerns are the possibility of a plugged-up catalyst, if I take the car to a muffle a certified mechanic can they tell if something mayor could be on my way after buy the car?
the dealers states that they will pass the emotion test before I buy the car, but that may just be a temporally fix.
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I don't think it would pass emission test if the cat is bad....plus check eng light would prob be on too.

also, you would be getting even worse mpg, long time to start too.
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Is the dealer going to fix what's need to pass or just put a sticker on? To me, something does seem right, as you said it doesn't have the power of the others and you will put another $800-1000 into it for TB, water pump kit and labor. I would need to see some repair work and bad parts or it Better be a GREAT deal or I would walk
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I doubt a dealer would risk their emissions station certificate from the state in order to make a sale, so they probably already know what the problem is and are pretty sure they can put parts on it to fix it.

I would ask more questions about what their repair would be.

Chip H.
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NO way I would buy this----Think I would PASS up this whole deal--doesnt sound right and you may be putting lots more money into this.....go find another one
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Originally Posted by chiph9
I doubt a dealer would risk their emissions station certificate from the state in order to make a sale, so they probably already know what the problem is and are pretty sure they can put parts on it to fix it.

I would ask more questions about what their repair would be.

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I thank all of your great information

I took the car to a certified muffler mechanic they found nothing and better they did not charge me nothing.

Car is good and I take it to the emission test myself before returned to the dealer, and pass emitions without problems.

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Make sure the check engine light works! I have seen them taped over, shorted out on purpose, even black sharpie marker to black them out!
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Bring it somewhere for a purchase inspection!
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Originally Posted by Ericcb
I thank all of your great information

I took the car to a certified muffler mechanic they found nothing and better they did not charge me nothing.

Car is good and I take it to the emission test myself before returned to the dealer, and pass emitions without problems.

Thanks
so what did the dealer do to fix the GX?
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In addition to catalytic clogs, a failing MAF sensor can cause the same thing, often without throwing a code. I would suspect the dealer replaced the MAF.
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