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Hello all. I'm thinking of selling my 2005 GX470 with the Sport Package. Does anyone know how "rare" the sport package is and if it adds any value? Thanks in advance.
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Good luck if you decide to sell.
Huge front / rear swaybars, KDSS light on the gauge cluster, dark wood grain trim and smoked tail lights (I think headlight lenses too). I'm probably missing a few other options but that's all I can remember.
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Does the "Sport" trim automatically include KDSS? Could you get KDSS on a non-sport GX?
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Yes.
Yes you can add KDSS as a stand alone option without the Sports package. Many will say no but that's not true. There's a few members here that have a '05+ and only added KDSS without the sports package.
http://www.lexus.com/contact/pdf/2005/2005GXspecs.pdf
(look on page 3 under options; to switch to different years just change the year in the link)
Yes you can add KDSS as a stand alone option without the Sports package. Many will say no but that's not true. There's a few members here that have a '05+ and only added KDSS without the sports package.
http://www.lexus.com/contact/pdf/2005/2005GXspecs.pdf
(look on page 3 under options; to switch to different years just change the year in the link)
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Obviously having the sports package w/ KDSS should add some value, how much is up to whoever is buying it. If it were my GX I'd start off pricing it $2K more than a standard '05 GX and negotiate from there.
Good luck if you decide to sell.
Huge front / rear swaybars, KDSS light on the gauge cluster, dark wood grain trim and smoked tail lights (I think headlight lenses too). I'm probably missing a few other options but that's all I can remember.
Good luck if you decide to sell.
Huge front / rear swaybars, KDSS light on the gauge cluster, dark wood grain trim and smoked tail lights (I think headlight lenses too). I'm probably missing a few other options but that's all I can remember.
I picked up my '05 sport a little over a month ago with 55k on it for $21k in pristine condition with all maint records.
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Obviously having the sports package w/ KDSS should add some value, how much is up to whoever is buying it. If it were my GX I'd start off pricing it $2K more than a standard '05 GX and negotiate from there.
Good luck if you decide to sell.
Huge front / rear swaybars, KDSS light on the gauge cluster, dark wood grain trim and smoked tail lights (I think headlight lenses too). I'm probably missing a few other options but that's all I can remember.
Good luck if you decide to sell.
Huge front / rear swaybars, KDSS light on the gauge cluster, dark wood grain trim and smoked tail lights (I think headlight lenses too). I'm probably missing a few other options but that's all I can remember.
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I disagree. Ask away by all means, but my bet is the vast majority of buyers are going to be ignorant to the sports pkg and therefore won't value it. Furthermore, online car pricing sites consistently show the value of options when used are significantly less than when new - the price when new just doesn't hold in the used market and usually drop dramatically. I also conclude those that want the Sport / KDSS pkg are likely few and far between, as evidenced by the comparatively small sales numbers when new.
Again, ask away! You can't get what you don't as for and I could be dead wrong! I hope for your pocket book's sake that I'm wrong. Good luck and report back.
Again, ask away! You can't get what you don't as for and I could be dead wrong! I hope for your pocket book's sake that I'm wrong. Good luck and report back.
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I disagree. Ask away by all means, but my bet is the vast majority of buyers are going to be ignorant to the sports pkg and therefore won't value it. Furthermore, online car pricing sites consistently show the value of options when used are significantly less than when new - the price when new just doesn't hold in the used market and usually drop dramatically. I also conclude those that want the Sport / KDSS pkg are likely few and far between, as evidenced by the comparatively small sales numbers when new.
Again, ask away! You can't get what you don't as for and I could be dead wrong! I hope for your pocket book's sake that I'm wrong. Good luck and report back.
Again, ask away! You can't get what you don't as for and I could be dead wrong! I hope for your pocket book's sake that I'm wrong. Good luck and report back.
Last edited by GX470Fan; 11-20-13 at 11:38 AM. Reason: Adding more words.
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IMO options on preowned cars are like houses - it helps to differentiate/sell but added value is very little for 95% of buyers. That custom BBQ/island/ramada in the backyard that cost $20k+ doesn't add much value over the other homes ... literally just a few thousand (< 50%). There are always a select few people who will seek them out (i.e. I loved the custom sport court on a home I saw and would pay for it), that just requires some patience.
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IMO options on preowned cars are like houses - it helps to differentiate/sell but added value is very little for 95% of buyers. That custom BBQ/island/ramada in the backyard that cost $20k+ doesn't add much value over the other homes ... literally just a few thousand (< 50%). There are always a select few people who will seek them out (i.e. I loved the custom sport court on a home I saw and would pay for it), that just requires some patience.
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Edmunds pegs the value of a '05 Sport Pkg at $200-500. Educate all you want, but that's a strong indicator of market value. So, is that how much you're suggesting the Sport Pkg is worth?
I think most buyers are indeed uneducated and naively just want leather and the big stereo for most cars (not limited to a GX comment here), so after those items are checked off their list they're looking for the best price. With respect to the GX specfically, the majority of GX's have those plus the 3rd row / air, tint, tip, etc. Stripper GX's just aren't common meaning all of us selling non-Sport GX's are essentially competing against equally optioned GX's where color, condition and mileage are king. The Sport Pkg is about the only rare option on a GX and as the OP asked, the primary question is just how much more is his / her GX worth because of the Sport Pkg...
Since autotrader.com gives us asking price and not the final sales price, we shouldn't look to it. Sold listing on eBay Motors would be helpul if someone wanted to do a quickie search.
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I think I know what you mean about the mountains in CO from first-hand experience. I've been happily scooting up and down Hwy 34 and 36 in CO for a couple of years. No surprise (and I know you're not implying that it ever will), but my GX can't hold a candle to my GS. If raising the psi a hair makes it a bit better, then it's still far from sporty. Furthermore, I have one more thought about the modest handling improvement from raising the tires' psi. Isn't that what the stability control system is for - ensuring the truck predictably and safely handles emergency inputs?
I think most buyers are indeed uneducated and naively just want leather and the big stereo for most cars (not limited to a GX comment here), so after those items are checked off their list they're looking for the best price. With respect to the GX specfically, the majority of GX's have those plus the 3rd row / air, tint, tip, etc. Stripper GX's just aren't common meaning all of us selling non-Sport GX's are essentially competing against equally optioned GX's where color, condition and mileage are king. The Sport Pkg is about the only rare option on a GX and as the OP asked, the primary question is just how much more is his / her GX worth because of the Sport Pkg...
Since autotrader.com gives us asking price and not the final sales price, we shouldn't look to it. Sold listing on eBay Motors would be helpul if someone wanted to do a quickie search.
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I think I know what you mean about the mountains in CO from first-hand experience. I've been happily scooting up and down Hwy 34 and 36 in CO for a couple of years. No surprise (and I know you're not implying that it ever will), but my GX can't hold a candle to my GS. If raising the psi a hair makes it a bit better, then it's still far from sporty. Furthermore, I have one more thought about the modest handling improvement from raising the tires' psi. Isn't that what the stability control system is for - ensuring the truck predictably and safely handles emergency inputs?
Last edited by Johnny Rad; 11-21-13 at 03:27 PM.
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I think most buyers are indeed uneducated and naively just want leather and the big stereo for most cars (not limited to a GX comment here), so after those items are checked off their list they're looking for the best price. With respect to the GX specfically, the majority of GX's have those plus the 3rd row / air, tint, tip, etc. Stripper GX's just aren't commonm meaning all of us selling non-Sport GX's are essentially competing against equally optioned GX's where color, condition and mileage are king. The Sport Pkg is about the only rare option on a GX and as the OP asked, the primary question is just how much more is his / her GX worth because of the Sport Pkg...
Since autotrader.com gives us asking price and not the final sales price, we shouldn't look to it. Sold listing on eBay Motors would be helpul if someone wanted to do a quickie search.
Since autotrader.com gives us asking price and not the final sales price, we shouldn't look to it. Sold listing on eBay Motors would be helpul if someone wanted to do a quickie search.
Before I bought my GX I found 3 Sport package GXs. Two were at my local Lexus dealer and one was a private seller. All were around the same asking price as the same year non-sport GXs. If it wasn't for the fact that you have a limited choice in colors for the sports package I probably would've bought one but they don't come in blizzard pearl so .
Look at how many "do I have KDSS" threads there are. Most have no clue about KDSS and some are surprised to find out after they bought their GX that they have it.