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Old 07-10-07, 08:13 PM
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Default Difference between 2004 and 2005 GX470

I'm ready to buy a GX
I'm getting rid of my wifes Infiniti QX4 (no power, I literally have to push it up a hill!!)

I'm looking at 2005's but in Colorado most are listed in the low to mid $40k
range. Which I think is high. These cars don't seem to depreciate too fast.
The 2004's are a bit cheaper around $35k- 38K.
What is the big difference??? I think just horsepower right?

I want one fully loaded DVD, NAV, 3rd row etc.
Then again if I can get a good trade value and a decent price should I pull the trigger on a 2007?? Thanks for your repsonse.
Old 07-10-07, 08:38 PM
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I bought a fully loaded one in Oklahoma with NAV, DVD, 3rd row etc. w. 80k miles for 28k this week. Try autotrader.com and find a private party deal.
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I picked up an 03 CPO with 41K miles and no RSES a year ago for $31,000. Timing is everything and don't be intimidated to negotiate your price. Lexus dealers are accustomed to having people walk in and sign a car for the retail price, but you can still find a bargain if you're patient.

Check Carmax as well. If you don''t mind driving to another state, they sometimes sell off some nice ones, but they won't be CPO.
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Try the Lexus CPO Model Library when you're looking for differences between years. It lists (mostly accurately) them at the top of the 'new year' as changes from the prior year.

http://www.lexus.com/cpo/model_library/GX/2005.html
It doesn't list any differences between 2004 and 2005, but does for 2006


http://www.lexus.com/cpo/model_library/GX/2006.html
New For 2006

Standard Features

- Engine rated at 263 hp [1] @ 5400 rpm, 323 lb-ft @ 3400 rpm [1]
- New e-brake handle (incorporates two rows of stitching in the leather cover)
- Four coat hooks standard (only two coat hooks if equipped with optional third-row seat)
Optional Features
- Lexus Link® [3]
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Originally Posted by CO-LS400

What is the big difference??? I think just horsepower right?
The difference is 35hp, 10 ft/lbs torque and the 2005 has a newer version of the NAV system. If you plan on adding Sirius radio, Ipod etc I would definately get the 2005. I have a 2004 and you won't believe how hard is is to get an integrated sirius radio into the thing. Also keep in mind that a 2005 will give you one more year under warrenty.

The prices you are quoting are high...remember that it only costs a few hundred bucks to ship a car accross the country. Check eBay, cars.com, CarMax etc. Have a third party mechanic look over the car and if you can save 4-5 grand it may be worth it.

Good Luck!



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The other addition that I want to add along with everyone else have mentioned is the bluetooth with the nav/ML system.

Brother in law had a qx4. Transmission died at about 100k and sold it after it was fixed. Pretty reliable truck, but sooooo weak and such a gas pig for an anemic truck. I believe it was like 168hp or so???

If you can wait for the 2008 model, it's suppose to get some minor facelift and other options. 2007 might not be a great deal yet since there is no "official" release yet from the dealer.

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Thanks everyone!

I'll keep searching for a gem. I might go private party if it still has a warranty.
I might be able to get a good deal.

Thanks again.
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I'm reviving this thread since I'm looking at getting a GX soon. I'm leaning toward the '05 since I understand it has some more hp and updated (?) Nav system but I'm seeing many more '04's for sale so want to dig a bit more.

1. In a truck this heavy, is the added hp in the '05 noticeable?
2. How much different is the Nav?

Any other pertinent info? TIA!

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Originally Posted by Fluid
I'm reviving this thread since I'm looking at getting a GX soon. I'm leaning toward the '05 since I understand it has some more hp and updated (?) Nav system but I'm seeing many more '04's for sale so want to dig a big more.

1. In a truck this heavy, is the added hp in the '05 noticeable?
2. How much different is the Nav?

Any other pertinent info? TIA!
I think the power is noticeable, and the '05+ may even get a bit better fuel economy as well.

I have an '04, and if I had to do it again, I'd skip the nav altogether and put an aftermarket stereo w/ nav in the truck. It's a 9 year old nav system, and it shows its age, updated maps can't change that. I'm not sure what the '05+ nav is like, you'd have to try it and see if you like it.
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Originally Posted by IanB2
I think the power is noticeable, and the '05+ may even get a bit better fuel economy as well.

I have an '04, and if I had to do it again, I'd skip the nav altogether and put an aftermarket stereo w/ nav in the truck. It's a 9 year old nav system, and it shows its age, updated maps can't change that. I'm not sure what the '05+ nav is like, you'd have to try it and see if you like it.
The 05+ do get a mile or two better mileage, but also require premium, so there's no financial benefit.

+1 on the navi. The integrated junk is what's keeping me from ripping it all out in favor of after market.
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Originally Posted by rj4510
The 05+ do get a mile or two better mileage, but also require premium, so there's no financial benefit.
No it doesn't. http://drivers.lexus.com/t3Portal/do...gx470o/gas.pdf

Straight from the 2005 owners manual:
    "Select Octane Rating 87 (Research Octane Number 91) or higher. For improved vehicle performance, the use of premium unleaded gasoline with an Octane Rating of 91 (Research Octane Number 96) or higher is recommended."
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    '05 is worth the jump, Bluetooth, gen4 Nav., better engine fuel system to name a few.
    W/o Nav. is not a big deal, some feel there are better aftermarket options out there.
    Being that the GX engine is the same compression engine as the Tundra, V8 4Runner, and Sequoia to name a few that run on regular unleaded, don't waste money on premium unleaded. The engine is not a high compression engine, no need for higher octane. Lexus recommends premium unleaded to qualify the GX as a ULEV II (Ultra-Low Emission Vehicle II).

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    First I've read about them being the same compression AND the ULEV registration.

    Do those Toyota trucks put out the same hp rating as the GX? In other words, is prem gas worth a few hp over std grade petrol?

    That's either a sweet knowledge bomb that Niteblu dropped on us or BS. I vote knowledge bomb. Anyone confirm or deny?!
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    2005 Lexus GX470 4.7L engine: Torque 330 ft-lbs @ 3400rpm, Horsepower 270hp @ 5400 rpm. 2005 4-Runner 4.7L engine: Torque 320 ft-lbs @ 3400rpm, Horsepower 270hp @ 5400 rpm. 2005 Tundra 4.7L engine: Torque 325 ft-lb @ 3400 rpm, Horsepower 282 hp @ 5400rpm. 2005 Sequoia 4.7L engine: Torque 325 ft-lbs @ 3400 rpm, Horsepower 282 hp @ 5400 rpm. All information is as stated for a 2UZ-FE engine with regular unleaded. All information came from several sources on internet and crossed checked to verify values. i.e.: Edmunds, KBB, Cargruus, and Manufactures. FWIW

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    Boom.



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