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Old May 29, 2024 | 05:43 AM
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Default 2004 gx470 speedometer intermittent

Seems this is a common issue and I have seen multiple threads but no actual solution to the problem. The symptoms are as follows:
  • Upon starting the vehicle, occasionally the speedometer does not function and does not move away from the 0 mark.
  • If it fails it will stay stuck to 0 for the entire journey.
  • It MAY be OK next time the car is started and in that case it is OK for the entire journey and will not fail.
  • When the fault occurs the odometer and tachometer continue to work.
  • Whilst this is an older car it has very low mileage (around 100000 miles).
From what I've read these symptoms point to a problem with the gauge rather than a sensor. Anyone able to point me in the right direction?

I should mention that I'm in Australia and that technically speaking, it is a Prado but virtually the same car as a GX470. My reasons for joining this forum is that the popular forum in Australia (Pradopoint) is not maintained. So cheers from Downunder!
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Old May 29, 2024 | 07:58 AM
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I can't say I've ever heard of a GX470 speedo failure in all my years on the forums.

Do you have access to TechStream? You could watch for a speed signal via computer readout when the gauge dies to confirm if it's a speedo gauge or a sensor/wiring issue that way.
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Old May 29, 2024 | 01:55 PM
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That the odometer & tach continue to work tells me the cluster is getting the data over the network. I think the stepper motor driving the speedometer has gone bad.

I know there are people who fix Ford and GM gauge clusters but I don't know if anyone does Toyota/Lexus clusters (probably break way less often..)

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Old May 29, 2024 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by IanB2
I can't say I've ever heard of a GX470 speedo failure in all my years on the forums.

Do you have access to TechStream? You could watch for a speed signal via computer readout when the gauge dies to confirm if it's a speedo gauge or a sensor/wiring issue that way.
Cheers. No access to TechStream but even if I did it is an intermittent problem so I'd have to 'get lucky' to be monitoring it when the problem occurred.

The question has been asked a number of times on this forum but without a definitive answer. They all sound fairly similar. What is really interesting is that they all happen to be 2004 models.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...-04-gx470.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...t-working.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...t-working.html
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gx-...eedo-help.html
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Old May 29, 2024 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chiph9
That the odometer & tach continue to work tells me the cluster is getting the data over the network. I think the stepper motor driving the speedometer has gone bad.

I know there are people who fix Ford and GM gauge clusters but I don't know if anyone does Toyota/Lexus clusters (probably break way less often..)

Chip H.
Cheers. I may need to find someone who fixes them here. If it is a stepper motor probably not something I can easily source. If it were a lesser component such as capacitor, or a known problem with a loose connector or bad ground on the gauge (happened in my Subaru), I could probably deal with it.

A clue is that the once started (if it starts), the gauge always sits at 0 until the ignition is cycled. That leads me to suspect it is not stepper motor but some kind of initialisation problem. An intermittent earth could explain it.
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Old May 29, 2024 | 02:45 PM
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Could it be this component? Not such a hard one to fix.
Only issue is that in my case it is just the 1 symptom, not all 3 that he describes.


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Old May 29, 2024 | 07:45 PM
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I'm not surprised to see another example of failed ceramic resonators.
https://forum.microchip.com/s/topic/...d4jEAC/t380260
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