Questions regarding 2017 GS F suspension
#1
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Questions regarding 2017 GS F suspension
Hi everyone!
Considering buying a GS F in the next few months, from what I've read one difference between 16 and 17 is that 17 has variable suspension and 16 has fixed. I have always restrained myself from buying first year model cars. My question is, is the variable suspension somewhat like an air suspension therefore it's not as reliable as the fixed ones or are they on the same level in terms of reliability?
At first I thought only variable suspension models come with different drive modes but it seems like they come standard with every model year Source, in other words can you say that variable suspension is a type of "improved" fixed suspension?
Thank you so much in advance!
Considering buying a GS F in the next few months, from what I've read one difference between 16 and 17 is that 17 has variable suspension and 16 has fixed. I have always restrained myself from buying first year model cars. My question is, is the variable suspension somewhat like an air suspension therefore it's not as reliable as the fixed ones or are they on the same level in terms of reliability?
At first I thought only variable suspension models come with different drive modes but it seems like they come standard with every model year Source, in other words can you say that variable suspension is a type of "improved" fixed suspension?
Thank you so much in advance!
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Hi everyone!
Considering buying a GS F in the next few months, from what I've read one difference between 16 and 17 is that 17 has variable suspension and 16 has fixed. I have always restrained myself from buying first year model cars. My question is, is the variable suspension somewhat like an air suspension therefore it's not as reliable as the fixed ones or are they on the same level in terms of reliability?
At first I thought only variable suspension models come with different drive modes but it seems like they come standard with every model year Source, in other words can you say that variable suspension is a type of "improved" fixed suspension?
Thank you so much in advance!
Considering buying a GS F in the next few months, from what I've read one difference between 16 and 17 is that 17 has variable suspension and 16 has fixed. I have always restrained myself from buying first year model cars. My question is, is the variable suspension somewhat like an air suspension therefore it's not as reliable as the fixed ones or are they on the same level in terms of reliability?
At first I thought only variable suspension models come with different drive modes but it seems like they come standard with every model year Source, in other words can you say that variable suspension is a type of "improved" fixed suspension?
Thank you so much in advance!
Typically, I would also be more cautious buying the first model year of a vehicle, but in the case of the GS F, it is using the GS platform (around since 2012), and it shares the powertrain (engine/trans/TVD/brakes) of the RC F (which came out in 2015)--which was an evolution of the IS F powertrain (engine/trans) (2008-2014).
#3
I bought a 16 and I have no complaints. Since the platform like was mentioned is tried and true I had no reservations. We have smooth roads here in SoCal so it’s just fine congress’s for me
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#5
Test drove both the 16 and own the 17.
The 17 would work much better for me as it is a bit softer, and great for family and baby.
The 16 is harder and feels sportier, almost like my TTs bit more refined.
So it depends on what you are looking for. More road feel or a bit more comfort.
The 17 would work much better for me as it is a bit softer, and great for family and baby.
The 16 is harder and feels sportier, almost like my TTs bit more refined.
So it depends on what you are looking for. More road feel or a bit more comfort.
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Test drove both the 16 and own the 17.
The 17 would work much better for me as it is a bit softer, and great for family and baby.
The 16 is harder and feels sportier, almost like my TTs bit more refined.
So it depends on what you are looking for. More road feel or a bit more comfort.
The 17 would work much better for me as it is a bit softer, and great for family and baby.
The 16 is harder and feels sportier, almost like my TTs bit more refined.
So it depends on what you are looking for. More road feel or a bit more comfort.
#7
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Get the one with AVS and get the best of both worlds. I can't speak to the fixed suspension that came on 2016 GS Fs, but typically, Lexus models equipped with AVS are more comfortable in their Normal modes yet perform better in Sport S+ mode compared to the same model without the AVS system.
I think the best part of the AVS system is its ability to actively compensate for body roll as well as squat under acceleration & nosedive under hard braking.
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#8
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Wouldn't worry one bit. Nearly every model in the Lexus lineup has AVS (Adaptive Variable Suspension) and has been offering it for years. If this were an adaptive air or hydraulic suspension, this would be a different discussion. If there's one thing I've never read about, it's a failure of the AVS system.
Get the one with AVS and get the best of both worlds. I can't speak to the fixed suspension that came on 2016 GS Fs, but typically, Lexus models equipped with AVS are more comfortable in their Normal modes yet perform better in Sport S+ mode compared to the same model without the AVS system.
I think the best part of the AVS system is its ability to actively compensate for body roll as well as squat under acceleration & nosedive under hard braking.
Get the one with AVS and get the best of both worlds. I can't speak to the fixed suspension that came on 2016 GS Fs, but typically, Lexus models equipped with AVS are more comfortable in their Normal modes yet perform better in Sport S+ mode compared to the same model without the AVS system.
I think the best part of the AVS system is its ability to actively compensate for body roll as well as squat under acceleration & nosedive under hard braking.
#9
2017 suspension noises
Hey y'all. So I have a 2017 and I need to ask the group: does anyone have any minor "clunking" noise with their adjustable suspension when just tooling around town? I get an almost imperceptible "clunk" sound from the suspension when I hit like a dip in the road or a minor depth pothole (I avoid anything deeper than a 1/2 inch or so.
I asked the Lexus team when I took it in for my 1,000 mile appointment and they said all was perfectly normal and operating great relative to the suspension. Sure has no problems when I am running it hard and through the backcountry roads and turns.
Any thoughts or others with similar observations? Thanks. Mike
I asked the Lexus team when I took it in for my 1,000 mile appointment and they said all was perfectly normal and operating great relative to the suspension. Sure has no problems when I am running it hard and through the backcountry roads and turns.
Any thoughts or others with similar observations? Thanks. Mike
#10
I test drive a 16 today. Suspension felt smooth but sporty. Lexus did an outstanding job with the tuning. This was what BMW was noted for in the past.
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In general, I did not have a positive experience with the Lexus AVS struts longevity as it seems to fail sooner than traditional struts. Everyone's mileage will vary.... With any regular use of the car and depending on the types of road conditions and loads, all struts will eventually fail, the only question is when.
I am fine with the ride on my 2016 however I'm sure that I would benefit from a softer ride if I were on a long road trip and it would make a huge difference in many of the ****ty city roads we have.
If you have the need for and benefits of AVS then you should get it, you just have to be prepared to pay the difference when it comes time to replace them.
I am fine with the ride on my 2016 however I'm sure that I would benefit from a softer ride if I were on a long road trip and it would make a huge difference in many of the ****ty city roads we have.
If you have the need for and benefits of AVS then you should get it, you just have to be prepared to pay the difference when it comes time to replace them.
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2016 vs 2017, 2018, and 2019
I have a 2016 and have no complaints about stiff or harsh suspension.
I moved to 20 inch rims recently with stock suspension and found it only marginally stiffer.
I don't have any plans on lowering the car.
My feeling is that if you buy a 2017 or newer version and then end up changing or modifying the suspension, then you are defeating the purpose of buying the car for the Active Variable Suspension, if that is your deciding factor.
Just my 2 cents.
I moved to 20 inch rims recently with stock suspension and found it only marginally stiffer.
I don't have any plans on lowering the car.
My feeling is that if you buy a 2017 or newer version and then end up changing or modifying the suspension, then you are defeating the purpose of buying the car for the Active Variable Suspension, if that is your deciding factor.
Just my 2 cents.
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In general, I did not have a positive experience with the Lexus AVS struts longevity as it seems to fail sooner than traditional struts. Everyone's mileage will vary.... With any regular use of the car and depending on the types of road conditions and loads, all struts will eventually fail, the only question is when.
I am fine with the ride on my 2016 however I'm sure that I would benefit from a softer ride if I were on a long road trip and it would make a huge difference in many of the ****ty city roads we have.
If you have the need for and benefits of AVS then you should get it, you just have to be prepared to pay the difference when it comes time to replace them.
I am fine with the ride on my 2016 however I'm sure that I would benefit from a softer ride if I were on a long road trip and it would make a huge difference in many of the ****ty city roads we have.
If you have the need for and benefits of AVS then you should get it, you just have to be prepared to pay the difference when it comes time to replace them.
#14
I have a 2016 and I can live the suspension as I come from lowered FR-S, M3s, but I can tell you it is rather sporty and can be pretty firm at times. Toronto is full of really bad pot holes especially after winter with the snow plow messing up the road, and some times I wish i got a 2017+.
#15
I have a 2016 and I can live the suspension as I come from lowered FR-S, M3s, but I can tell you it is rather sporty and can be pretty firm at times. Toronto is full of really bad pot holes especially after winter with the snow plow messing up the road, and some times I wish i got a 2017+.