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Old 06-11-19, 10:29 AM
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Default e-TNGA platform = Hope for e5GS?

Looks like Toyota is planning on working with Subaru on electrifying the TNGA platform; hopefully they'll make a e5GS?
https://jalopnik.com/heres-a-first-l...r-p-1835345668
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Old 06-11-19, 12:00 PM
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I always thought that this what Tesla should have done in the first place: build a modular drive train and license it to the major mfgs.

The S and 3 are incredible to drive, but as cars they leave much to be desired. Give me a GS with an awd electric drive train.
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Old 06-11-19, 12:45 PM
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Even a GS with RWD electric drive I'd be all for!
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Old 06-11-19, 02:38 PM
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Didn't tesla start out with some toyota partnership making some stuff for toyota's hybrids? 2020 is when toyota is suppose to debut their autonomous cars and all their fancy tech so maybe we'll see a new car there and most likely a refreshed LS already since thats the car they outfitted with all the cameras. It is hard to see the GS continuing with all these partnerships going on to produce new cars (supra/z4, new toyota/subaru, toyota/mazda/denso) then again GS is a re-wrapped crown and the crown just had a remodel.
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They already have the TNGA platform they need. It's what the new Crown is built on.
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Originally Posted by baconRx View Post
Didn't tesla start out with some toyota partnership making some stuff for toyota's hybrids? 2020 is when toyota is suppose to debut their autonomous cars and all their fancy tech so maybe we'll see a new car there and most likely a refreshed LS already since thats the car they outfitted with all the cameras. It is hard to see the GS continuing with all these partnerships going on to produce new cars (supra/z4, new toyota/subaru, toyota/mazda/denso) then again GS is a re-wrapped crown and the crown just had a remodel.
Toyota made some compliance RAV4 EV's to sell in California only which uses Tesla tech. They really should continue with that because Panasonic+Tesla are the largest battery manufacturers in the world besides the Chinese BYD. Tesla also has by far the most advanced battery pack design.

Imagine a car with Lexus fit and finish but with a Tesla powertrain. No one would be able to laugh at the grill because they'd only see the back while choking on dust.


From what I read, Toyota is at least partnering directly with Panasonic so hopefully they'll get the batteries en masse they'll need.

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Our Model 3 is an incredible car; it is so much more than an electric.
For example, the Japanese simplicity theme; the interior has no *****.
The Model 3 is not for everyone, to be sure.
After driving it I find our GS dash overly complicated.

The Tesla is just plain futuristic.
Again, not for everyone...



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Old 06-12-19, 12:26 AM
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Toyota is working on solid state batteries. Once they figure that out it will be a game changer for EV's.

I'll get an EV Lexus one day if the range is around 500 miles and recharge times are half of what they are today

With current batteries that's not possible, but one day.
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Originally Posted by peasodos View Post
Toyota is working on solid state batteries. Once they figure that out it will be a game changer for EV's.

I'll get an EV Lexus one day if the range is around 500 miles and recharge times are half of what they are today

With current batteries that's not possible, but one day.
Many speak of Tesla range anxiety. How often to you drive over 200 miles in 1 day?
If you do regularly, than a Tesla may not be right for you.
In Silicon Valley, chargers are abundant, but not always available.
You learn...
Think about how much time you save by never going to a gas station.
We have solar panels, so cost to charge is very low.

I understand that CA is somewhat unique and is a mecca for EVs.
Lotsa sun, lotsa chargers. It is growing.
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I would have gotten a Tesla if there infrastructure was good, but from the fit and finish to the used car market they are just behind and still need schooling. I would defintely wait for an EV Lexus, with good power.
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Old 06-12-19, 08:28 AM
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About time Toyota is jumping on the EV bandwagon. I'm getting tired of seeing Teslas everywhere, these things are becoming Corollas and Civics! Everybody has one! Yes I want one too but wouldn't get rid of my Lexus for it.
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Originally Posted by ItzFilyO View Post
About time Toyota is jumping on the EV bandwagon. I'm getting tired of seeing Teslas everywhere, these things are becoming Corollas and Civics! Everybody has one! Yes I want one too but wouldn't get rid of my Lexus for it.
Reason I like my 2013 450h it's rare, everyone cant have one.
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I suspect I will one day drive an electric vehicle, but I'm in no hurry to make the switch.

What I would want would be the Lexus level of attention to detail and quality that I am used to. I'd like a good 250-300 miles of range, a good charging infrastructure, and fast charging.

While I do not drive 200 miles a day, I do at times. A few times a year I drive about 215 miles, stay a day or 2, and head back. Current Teslas have enough range to make that 215 mile trip do-able, even with some reserve to deal with the unexpected. My concern is being able to completely replenish that charge before I head back home. As long as I have access to a good charger, that would be fine. I think we're getting closer to that.
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Originally Posted by peasodos View Post
Reason I like my 2013 450h it's rare, everyone cant have one.
I suggest you drive a Model 3.
It is different. It is amazing.
Again, not for everybody.
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