Is this bushing the culprit?
#18
Instructor
This is my next step. Someone asked last night if I had done any work on the car in the past but I don't see the comment anymore. But I've done brakes, aftermarket rotors, strut bar, LCA bushing's now, checked sway bar bushings, lowering springs... I guess there has been quite a bit. Honestly I'm hopeful that something has come loose (never thought I'd say that) and that it's just a bolt that's causing this.
So like you said. I'm gonna go one by one and also see if I can get a friend to stand by the car and see if we can pinpoint exactly what area it's coming from.
I drove last night and it seems to do it more when I take off from a complete stop. Like at a red light.
So like you said. I'm gonna go one by one and also see if I can get a friend to stand by the car and see if we can pinpoint exactly what area it's coming from.
I drove last night and it seems to do it more when I take off from a complete stop. Like at a red light.
Second idea, do you have a GoPro you could mount in the wheel well or under the car? I'm reminded of the video for the LCA bushing that showed lots of deflection. Great troubleshooting tool.
Good luck.
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DiezDos (08-13-18)
#19
Lexus Test Driver
Spring perch, strut mount, steering rack? I'd triple check anything in the areas that you have done work on or modified.
#20
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So Monday update lol..
Took off wheel and checked all nuts and bolts that I can remember messing with. All good. I also removed the nut on the upper control arm and found the bushing to have extremely too much play. I started a youtube so I can post longer videos haha. First one is the upper control arm and the bolt is supposed to point down but I guess I had my phone upside down haha.
Second is my wife trying to replicate the sound of me going up the driveway.
Took off wheel and checked all nuts and bolts that I can remember messing with. All good. I also removed the nut on the upper control arm and found the bushing to have extremely too much play. I started a youtube so I can post longer videos haha. First one is the upper control arm and the bolt is supposed to point down but I guess I had my phone upside down haha.
Second is my wife trying to replicate the sound of me going up the driveway.
#21
Instructor
So Monday update lol..
Took off wheel and checked all nuts and bolts that I can remember messing with. All good. I also removed the nut on the upper control arm and found the bushing to have extremely too much play. I started a youtube so I can post longer videos haha. First one is the upper control arm and the bolt is supposed to point down but I guess I had my phone upside down haha.
Second is my wife trying to replicate the sound of me going up the driveway.
https://youtu.be/RwYi0NaELwU
https://youtu.be/QsNpraTqCco
Took off wheel and checked all nuts and bolts that I can remember messing with. All good. I also removed the nut on the upper control arm and found the bushing to have extremely too much play. I started a youtube so I can post longer videos haha. First one is the upper control arm and the bolt is supposed to point down but I guess I had my phone upside down haha.
Second is my wife trying to replicate the sound of me going up the driveway.
https://youtu.be/RwYi0NaELwU
https://youtu.be/QsNpraTqCco
What happens if you bounce the fender up and down? Strut secured under the hood?
#22
Lexus Test Driver
So Monday update lol..
Second is my wife trying to replicate the sound of me going up the driveway.
https://youtu.be/QsNpraTqCco
Second is my wife trying to replicate the sound of me going up the driveway.
https://youtu.be/QsNpraTqCco
If you put the car in Park and do not apply the brakes when turning the steering wheel, do you still hear the crunching/creaking noise? If no noise is heard, then it's a pretty good bet that the noise is coming from the brakes.
What torque did you use when tightening the caliper bolts - 100 lb-ft? Check the torque on your caliper bolts. Did you use the brake pad shims?
Shifting brake pads can make that crunching/creaking noise, or when dry friction from the caliper pistons meet the brake pads. Did you use brake grease on the slide pins and the back of the pads, and also on the sides of the pads where they fit into their mounting frame? Maybe you just didn't want to use
Last edited by bclexus; 08-14-18 at 01:56 PM.
#23
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Thread Starter
If you put the car in Park and do not apply the brakes when turning the steering wheel, do you still hear the crunching/creaking noise? If no noise is heard, then it's a pretty good bet that the noise is coming from the brakes.
What torque did you use when tightening the caliper bolts - 100 lb-ft? Check the torque on your caliper bolts. Did you use the brake pad shims?
Shifting brake pads can make that crunching/creaking noise, or when dry friction from the caliper pistons meet the brake pads. Did you use brake grease on the slide pins and the back of the pads, and also on the sides of the pads where they fit into their mounting frame? Maybe you just didn't want to useenough any grease that could get on your nicely painted calipers or shiny new drilled and slotted rotors!
What torque did you use when tightening the caliper bolts - 100 lb-ft? Check the torque on your caliper bolts. Did you use the brake pad shims?
Shifting brake pads can make that crunching/creaking noise, or when dry friction from the caliper pistons meet the brake pads. Did you use brake grease on the slide pins and the back of the pads, and also on the sides of the pads where they fit into their mounting frame? Maybe you just didn't want to use
haha I did use some grease but maybe not enough. I'm basically going to redo it all from beginning and see how that goes.
Either way, I have an appointment on Friday for Lexus to check it out. It'd be nice to find a solution before then and not waste a hundred and some bucks but we'll see.
On the video, might be hard to tell but some of the sound is coming directly from the hub area. Is it possible that my wheel bearing is no good? I read they don't easily go out but I wonder if that could also be a possibility.
#24
Lexus Test Driver
Sounds like brake noise to me. If so, my best guess is that the crunching/creaking noise is caused by no grease on the back and the sides of the brake pads.
If you put the car in Park and do not apply the brakes when turning the steering wheel, do you still hear the crunching/creaking noise? If no noise is heard, then it's a pretty good bet that the noise is coming from the brakes.
What torque did you use when tightening the caliper bolts - 100 lb-ft? Check the torque on your caliper bolts. Did you use the brake pad shims?
Shifting brake pads can make that crunching/creaking noise, or when dry friction from the caliper pistons meet the brake pads. Did you use brake grease on the slide pins and the back of the pads, and also on the sides of the pads where they fit into their mounting frame? Maybe you just didn't want to useenough any grease that could get on your nicely painted calipers or shiny new drilled and slotted rotors!
If you put the car in Park and do not apply the brakes when turning the steering wheel, do you still hear the crunching/creaking noise? If no noise is heard, then it's a pretty good bet that the noise is coming from the brakes.
What torque did you use when tightening the caliper bolts - 100 lb-ft? Check the torque on your caliper bolts. Did you use the brake pad shims?
Shifting brake pads can make that crunching/creaking noise, or when dry friction from the caliper pistons meet the brake pads. Did you use brake grease on the slide pins and the back of the pads, and also on the sides of the pads where they fit into their mounting frame? Maybe you just didn't want to use
I'm going to give this a try tomorrow. Also, checking the outer tie rod and removing brake pads and reinstalling to be sure. Calipers were torqued to 100 lbs.
haha I did use some grease but maybe not enough. I'm basically going to redo it all from beginning and see how that goes.
Either way, I have an appointment on Friday for Lexus to check it out. It'd be nice to find a solution before then and not waste a hundred and some bucks but we'll see.
On the video, might be hard to tell but some of the sound is coming directly from the hub area. Is it possible that my wheel bearing is no good? I read they don't easily go out but I wonder if that could also be a possibility.
#25
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Thread Starter
So bit the bullet and took the car to get inspected at the dealership. Glad I did.
While I feel silly I didn't catch it, I had never touched this so I did not think to check. Turned out to be the camber eccentric bolts. Apparently they were both loose.
The other day I checked the nuts and bolts of things I had messed with, I never imagined it could have been these bolts since I've never touched them. I was right there!! haha should have checked them. I'm just glad I didn't spend in more parts only to still have the issue. You live and you learn.
I still have to replaced those bushings I found to be worn but it's not as urgent as the embarrassing clunk noises are now gone
Thank you all for the help.
While I feel silly I didn't catch it, I had never touched this so I did not think to check. Turned out to be the camber eccentric bolts. Apparently they were both loose.
The other day I checked the nuts and bolts of things I had messed with, I never imagined it could have been these bolts since I've never touched them. I was right there!! haha should have checked them. I'm just glad I didn't spend in more parts only to still have the issue. You live and you learn.
I still have to replaced those bushings I found to be worn but it's not as urgent as the embarrassing clunk noises are now gone
Thank you all for the help.
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er34 (08-17-18)
#26
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Thread Starter
...funny thing is. If I had replaced the bushings I initially asked about on here, I would have removed those bolts and put them back on properly. Therefore would have been fixed lol...sigh
#27
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So bit the bullet and took the car to get inspected at the dealership. Glad I did.
While I feel silly I didn't catch it, I had never touched this so I did not think to check. Turned out to be the camber eccentric bolts. Apparently they were both loose.
The other day I checked the nuts and bolts of things I had messed with, I never imagined it could have been these bolts since I've never touched them. I was right there!! haha should have checked them. I'm just glad I didn't spend in more parts only to still have the issue. You live and you learn.
I still have to replaced those bushings I found to be worn but it's not as urgent as the embarrassing clunk noises are now gone
Thank you all for the help.
While I feel silly I didn't catch it, I had never touched this so I did not think to check. Turned out to be the camber eccentric bolts. Apparently they were both loose.
The other day I checked the nuts and bolts of things I had messed with, I never imagined it could have been these bolts since I've never touched them. I was right there!! haha should have checked them. I'm just glad I didn't spend in more parts only to still have the issue. You live and you learn.
I still have to replaced those bushings I found to be worn but it's not as urgent as the embarrassing clunk noises are now gone
Thank you all for the help.
Do you have a picture of which bolts? Might help some members out diagnosing these problems.
#28
Lexus Test Driver
So bit the bullet and took the car to get inspected at the dealership. Glad I did.
While I feel silly I didn't catch it, I had never touched this so I did not think to check. Turned out to be the camber eccentric bolts. Apparently they were both loose.
The other day I checked the nuts and bolts of things I had messed with, I never imagined it could have been these bolts since I've never touched them. I was right there!! haha should have checked them. I'm just glad I didn't spend in more parts only to still have the issue. You live and you learn.
I still have to replaced those bushings I found to be worn but it's not as urgent as the embarrassing clunk noises are now gone
Thank you all for the help.
While I feel silly I didn't catch it, I had never touched this so I did not think to check. Turned out to be the camber eccentric bolts. Apparently they were both loose.
The other day I checked the nuts and bolts of things I had messed with, I never imagined it could have been these bolts since I've never touched them. I was right there!! haha should have checked them. I'm just glad I didn't spend in more parts only to still have the issue. You live and you learn.
I still have to replaced those bushings I found to be worn but it's not as urgent as the embarrassing clunk noises are now gone
Thank you all for the help.
Glad you got it fixed...
#29
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Thanks for all the suggestions though. Really appreciate you taking the time
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