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joedaddy1

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The VQ engine the G37 is not as smooth as the engine in the GS. I've owned the 1st/2nd gen G Sedan, and currently have a new Q50 in the family.
The VQ engine feels much faster than the GS. Heck, I think my 1st gen G35 ran 14.5 quarter miles and sounded like it would run 13.5 quarters.
I liked that "raw-ness" of the 1st gen G... Kinda like a Civic, you feel like you are going to go back to the future, but you are still under the speed limit.
The 2nd-gen IS350 is the biggest sleeper of them all (maybe the Camry v6 from ~2 generations ago), quiet as heck when floored and still ran sub-14 quarters...

eddie420

LOL!!! That is hilariously true.

IndyIS

I had the same feeling, initially, going from my '06 IS350 RWD with an F-Sport cold air intake and into my 2013 GS350 F-Sport (AWD). But that feeling quickly faded once I had a chance to drive the GS like I stole it. That's when I realized the "feeling" I had was mostly because of the much smoother and and stealth-like acceleration of the GS. I won't say the cornering was the same as the IS, but acceleration wise, it was on par.

Side but related note, my brother drove a 1st gen G35 with a short ram intake on it (pretty fun car), and it sounded and looked like it should have been a 10-second car, but my IS always seemed to pull ahead of it (not that I condone racing your siblings).

jtrue28

Low end torque is garbage, that's why it feels slow.

AJLex19

If you like everything about the GS except for its lack of responsiveness, then the easiest thing to try is disconnecting the battery. I noticed that after I did this, the GS felt a lot quicker and through this experience I understand now that the ECU learns driving habits and makes the car most efficient/more responsive based on the predominant driving patterns.

If you're always mashing the gas, the ECU will learn to give you more throttle response - unfortunately for me, I hardly have any open roads and have speed limits of 25MPH everywhere so it quickly became sedate after a few days again.

Otherwise, folks have added intakes and the Apexi throttle controller to help curb that "slow" feeling...the only other thing would be to consider purchasing a GS F with its V8.

signdetres

While I do think the lack of low-end torque is a factor here, I don't think it's the sole reason. I think a large part of this sensation is how smoothly the car accelerates and how quiet it is at speed. It masks speed quite well, even at higher speeds, so you never really get the sensation of speed. Drive it at 100+ and you'll see my point.

Highway acceleration/stability and passing power is quite impressive and worth the trade-off for acceleration from a dead stop, IMO.

jtrue28

The trade off is you get reliability with Toyota/Lexus engines, instead of performance. That has always been the case. It's not a bad thing, just if you want performance, Lexus shouldn't be your first choice. I had this same discussion with a friend of mine. The consensus was, buy German, if you want to blow people off the line.

UDel

I test drove a 2016 and felt the same way. Where did the power go? I thought I was driving the 4cyl version or it was put in some kind of really conservative economy mode but it was a 6 cylinder in power. It was disappointing. The car did not feel like it was making any more then 260 or 270hp, certainly not 310hp. My GS430 just felt so much quicker and more satisfying, easy effortless acceleration, when I got back into my GS430 it was so much more satisfying to drive even though the handling was not as tight. I remember driving a 2nd Gen IS350 and it felt so much quicker, much quicker then my GS even though it lacked the low end torque, even the 3rd Gen GS350 felt quicker then the 4th Gen, from 0-60 numbers it seems to be true the 4th Gen GS350 is not as quick as the 3rd Gen for some reason, some of the margins are pretty big. Some have said they changed the tuning of the transmission/engine for the 2016 to get better fuel economy which sounds plausible and disappointing but I am surprised you said the 2013 felt so slow compared to a Infiniti G as some have said the pre 2016's feel quicker. Either way I think part of the problem with GS sales is buyers are having the same reaction when they take a test drive, the car does not feel very quick and there is no engine to step up to, it was a bad move to get rid of the 8 cylinder option. After test driving the 4th Gen GS I decided to also look for a LS460 as my next car which I don't know if I would have seriously considered before the test drive.

kingofire

You sir hit the nail right on the head with that statement!

er34

G37 makes more power, the extra 200cc makes a difference on the "meat" of the torque curve throughout the powerband. First gear ratio also has to do with it, the GS350 has 4.596, the G37 7AT has 4.92, so off the line, the G37 should feel faster. A closer comparison would be the G35 motor, which is still what is presently in the current Maxima.

I happened to be side by side with a brand new Maxima on an empty stretch of road quite recently, and we were neck-and-neck up to 80km/h before the GS started inching away ever so slightly. Considering the GS is heavier than the Maxima, this is pretty much exactly the result I expected.

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