urnoby

would you buy GSF or GS 350 F-sport, and why ? I live in Cleveland and it snow badly. AWD is attractive, but is not available in GSF. I do not know how GSF handle in the snow, but if GSF comes with AWD, I would buy it without questions. Now, I am considering GS 350, because of the AWD, but I still want the V8 in the GSF.

e60bmw

iTrader: (1)

Very different cars in power and especially price standpoint. I would personally do a GS f sport due to price, its almost double and isn't worth the extra power for the price for me personally. I'd probably go for a f10 f5 instead of a GS-F since they have started dropping more in price. GS-F's are still over 50k

Longevite1

GS F all the way.

jtrue28

You'll wish you went AWD, six months of the year...

NebulaGrey

Move and buy a gsf. Lol.

AJLex19

I used to have a RWD GS and it wasn't fun in the few times I had it in the snow. The car was amazing otherwise though. If price and weather performance weren't priorities for me, I would definitely consider a GS-F.

I was even looking on cars.com the other day to see the general price point. Reputable dealers have them for around $60-$62k with low miles and remaining factory warranty (great example of one: https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2906/overview/)

vuong05

Like someone else mentioned earlier,,, move to a state without snow and buy the GS-F. lol

fuddyduddy

I drove a RWD V8 540i for two years in Ann Arbor, Michigan and two years in Chicago. I made it but there were days where it was just not safe to drive very far. Had to cancel meeting some folks over in Rochester Hills one day because we were getting a few inches of snow. Another time I got stuck at a traffic light because the road had a slight incline to it and the wheels could not get enough traction.

hhss

iTrader: (1)

Simple. GSF and buy a good set of winter tires.

urnoby

Thanks a lot for your replies, I wish if they have the GSF in AWD, still tough to decide which one to go. The good thing, I still have a good 2 months before I make my decision.

JWBlakk

GSF x Winter Tires x Bags of salt in the trunk haha. Seriously though, if I were in a state with no snow then hands down a GSF but otherwise, GS F Sport in AWD...if you are not too concerned about power.

urnoby

Thank you guys for your help, I am buying the GS 350 F sport AWD

newgsman

iTrader: (4)

I have driven RWD cars my whole life. Driving in winter is a challenge sometimes but quite frankly it has more to do with the driver than the car. The secret is to make sure you have very good winter tires, not all seasons. I drove my ISF for about half a winter when I had to loan my daily driver (GS400 RWD) to my daughter The ISF was no more difficult than any other car I drove in the winter. I had Blizzak winter tires on it. I use Michelin Pilot Alpins on my GS400. Both are very good winter tires. I actually prefer the Pilot Alpins.

These cars are equipped with snow mode, ABS, and yaw sensors, so for the most part if you get into trouble, chances are it's because you are doing something you really shouldn't be doing. Just like you don't use all of your 467 horses in a school zone don't use them in inclement weather and you will be fine. I was also considering a GS awd but in the end I settled on the ISF.

Now driving a rare car like a GSF in the winter is another discussion...

AJLex19

My personal issues when I had a RWD GS:
Switching out tires: I didn't have the space for storing tires/winter set so I had to rely on All-Seasons.
Getting stuck: In a number of instances, I got stuck in a parking spot that had ice that formed overnight after daytime melting or I had to dig-out because I could get no traction.

However, I agree with you 100% that driving style needs to change based on the season, the weather and the drive-type.

DiezDos

Word! If I could afford one then I would put on some really nice winter tires and call it a day. No way the snow would prevent me from having one.