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Old 05-31-17, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by LatinGS350
Thanks Dan! Don't you have a video on your YouTube channel on how to flush the brakes? Or maybe you I'm thinking of when you used your Motive Bleeder for the diff fluid change.
A pressure bleeder does make changing brake fluid a breeze that's for sure.
I do, but it's for when I flushed the brake fluid in my Porsche and not my wife's Lexus. I still need to buy the Toyota/Lexus adapter for my Motive Power bleeder in order to do my wife's car. I need to get that ordered soon as it's probably due.
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Originally Posted by dan87951
I do, but it's for when I flushed the brake fluid in my Porsche and not my wife's Lexus. I still need to buy the Toyota/Lexus adapter for my Motive Power bleeder in order to do my wife's car. I need to get that ordered soon as it's probably due.
Oh yeah it was on your Porsche. I don't think Motive has an adapter for Toyota/Lexus and that's why I went to Speedi Bleed since they had one for Toyota/Lexus.
Motive has a universal round one but I have read that sometimes it doesn't work as good and it can't hold pressure.
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Wow! I would be really surprised if they didn't have an adapter for Toyota/Lexus. I will look into it right now. Thanks for letting me know.
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Originally Posted by dan87951
Wow! I would be really surprised if they didn't have an adapter for Toyota/Lexus. I will look into it right now. Thanks for letting me know.
Were you able to see if you found a Toyota/Lexus adapter from Motive?
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Originally Posted by LatinGS350
Were you able to see if you found a Toyota/Lexus adapter from Motive?
I sent a email out to them. I'm waiting to hear back from them. I will let you know.

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Originally Posted by dan87951
I sent a email out to them. I'm waiting to hear back from them. I will let you know.

Dan
Cool. Yeah let us know.
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I thought a TechStream tool was needed to bleed the brakes on the GS. Is that not true? Or is it only needed on later models?
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Originally Posted by lamikela1
I thought a TechStream tool was needed to bleed the brakes on the GS. Is that not true? Or is it only needed on later models?
No idea. I haven't had any issues since I did the flush.
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Originally Posted by LatinGS350
No idea. I haven't had any issues since I did the flush.

Below is what I received from Motive. Looks like I will be using my Mightyvac to flush the brake fluid out.

"Hello,
Most toyotas and Lexus use a reservoir cap that is just pressed or snapped onto the reservoir. As such there is no way to secure a cap onto the reservoir easily for use with a pressure bleeder. You need to use a kit that is secured or clamped to the reservoir by some other method. Our kit uses a set of chains and j-hooks to secure the adapter. One thing to watch for tho is if the reservoir is jammed up under the cowl - if it is there may not be enough room to use the adapter.

Both kits 0101(includes adapter 1101) and 0119 (includes adapter 1119) use this method.

The caps for both kits use a chain that runs under the master cylinder and then hooks up to the cap and is tightened with wingnuts. But many customers have found using some shop clamps works well. See this blog post

https://motive-products-2.myshopify....onda-customers

also see faq #12

https://motive-products-2.myshopify.com/pages/faqs"
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Thanks for that info Dan.
You should do a video with your Motive when you flush the the GS.
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Originally Posted by lamikela1
I thought a TechStream tool was needed to bleed the brakes on the GS. Is that not true? Or is it only needed on later models?
OK I just checked the repair manual and the TechStream tool is only needed to bleed air from the master cylinder or actuator. If you are only replacing fluid you can use the pedal pump method or pressure method. Just never let the fluid get below minimum or you may allow air to get into the master cylinder and you're hosed!!!
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Originally Posted by LatinGS350
Thanks for that info Dan.
You should do a video with your Motive when you flush the the GS.
No problem! I won't buy the Motive adapter as I have a mityvac, which is also a useful tool for bleeding brakes. I might do a video on how to use the mityvac to bleed brakes, will see.
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Originally Posted by dan87951
No problem! I won't buy the Motive adapter as I have a mityvac, which is also a useful tool for bleeding brakes. I might do a video on how to use the mityvac to bleed brakes, will see.
I think you should make a video haha. I like to watch em.
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Originally Posted by LatinGS350
I think you should make a video haha. I like to watch em.
haha thanks! That is always nice to hear!
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I would like to add to this thread that I have both the Speedibleed and the Motive pressure bleeder.
Using the Speedibleed is much cleaner and quicker for Toyota cars.

The Motive pressure bleeder requires one to wrap a chain around the brake fluid reservoir cap and master cylinder. I've had it leak due to it being misaligned or not on tight enough which causes a huge mess in the engine bay/floor.
The Speedibleed is a cap with a thick rubber seal inside and uses wingnuts to secure on the brake fluid reservoir. The Speedibleed includes a pressure gauge which is much higher quality and accurate than the Motive one.

Not trying to sell anyone on the Speedibleed, only stating what my experience has been after owning both. Both do a good job if setup correctly, but given how Toyota's don't have a "screw cap" design for the brake fluid reservoir, the Speedibleed is cleaner and quicker.


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