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Old 03-05-17, 06:37 PM
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Default Differetn tire sizes on stock wheels

I have 2013 f-sport awd 350GS with stock 19" wheels which wear 235/40/R19 tires (I still have original Bridgestone turanza el400). Because of pot holes in sfbay area one of front tires cracked near rim and I need to replaces tires now.
So, I guess I have to replace either all 4 tires or 2 fronts? I've read that 245/40/R19 can be used on stock rim and these usually have higher weight rating (750kg vs 710kg, e.g. hopefully they will stand better against pot holes).
Should I put on 245/40/R19 in front and keep old 235 in the back, should I change all four to 245 or should I put 235?
I'm a careful driver and I don't push my car, so I'm mainly interested in durable less noisy tires. These based on price or ratings are the once I'm considering in the order of preference:
Yokohama ADVAN Sport A/S $166
Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus $216
Michelin Primacy MXM4 $221

Yokohamas are first simply because they have good rating and are $50 cheaper. My car is still on lease, it expires in a few months. I'll keep the car, but then most likely I'll sell it next summer.

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changing to 245 won't make a lot of difference in protecting from pot holes, and it'll actually make more tire noise cause theres more rubber on the road. Since you're a careful driver and don't push the car, why not change to change to 18 inch rims and put 235/45/18? It'll have more protection from pot holes, less noisier ride, and more comfort!!!
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On an AWD, you'd want all 4 tire sizes the same. Switching to a 245/40 over a 235/40 won't have much difference when it comes to withstanding a rim-breaking pothole, in my opinion. Yeah the tire will cover a tiny bit more surface area, but I doubt there'd be any noticeable difference in protection.

I know the Bay Area potholes extremely well... cracked a rim on my previous car with 18s and a 235/45s. Our potholes are unforgiving
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I thought there is better protection not because there is 10mm width increase, but because these are usually rated for higher weight bering capacity.

I didn't know that wider tires would be noisier, so I stick to 235s then.

I wouldn't switch to 18, since I'd need to change rims, and I don't want to mess with that: I really like stock rims and overall look, don't want to change that.

Any suggestions regarding tires?
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Originally Posted by kamskeez
I know the Bay Area potholes extremely well... cracked a rim on my previous car with 18s and a 235/45s. Our potholes are unforgiving
Yeah, when you drive towards SF right after the airport there is a few spots with pot holes. They aren't deep, but man, if you hit them it feels like you lost your wheels.
I don't get this: how about these douchebags that collect taxes: do they fly helicopters? Or they take caltrain only and never meet these holes?!
I've driven past that spot and everytime I see traffic slowing down there

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Old 03-06-17, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pablo80
I thought there is better protection not because there is 10mm width increase, but because these are usually rated for higher weight bering capacity.

I didn't know that wider tires would be noisier, so I stick to 235s then.

I wouldn't switch to 18, since I'd need to change rims, and I don't want to mess with that: I really like stock rims and overall look, don't want to change that.

Any suggestions regarding tires?
well i guess your best bet is to change to 245, it'll also increase the height of the tires if that helps.

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Old 03-07-17, 04:13 AM
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Aside from avoiding potholes altogether, thicker sidewalls are your best protection (18" wheels). The ever-so-slight increase in sidewall from a 245 tire isn't appreciable. I'm not sure if a higher load rating will really make the tire withstand potholes better, although it's a logical thought.

On tires, I don't have experience with those specific Yoko's but my experience with 2 other Yoko tires on another car was sub-par. They were well-rated tires and I didn't care for them, especially because both sets had trouble balancing. The Pirelli you listed is popular on our car and I've known folks who liked their Michelin MXM4's.
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Hit a bad train tracks the other night and my car felt like bottoming out and falling apart. The noise was loud as hell but when I check my undercarriage, not a single scratch on it and nothing bent.

I have the upsized set, 245 fronts and 275 rears.
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Can't speak for the Yokes, but I've had the Michelin's on another car and liked them. But I highly recommend the P7's on this car. I switched to them early on with my GS (had new, but crappy tires on when I bought it) and it was like driving a different car. So quiet.....
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I ended up getting Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+
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Originally Posted by pablo80
I ended up getting Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+
What size did you go with?
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Same tires as mine.
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Originally Posted by pablo80
I ended up getting Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+
Michelins all the way
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Slightly off-topic, but you can trying getting Caltrans to reimburse for pot hole damage:

http://www.dot.ca.gov/damageclaims.html

Story: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/articl...p-10881594.php
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