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Old 12-16-15, 05:48 PM
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I have a 2015 GS with a little over 1000 miles. I've never had a new car that waited until 5000 miles for the first oil change. Is it really good for the engine to go through the first 5000 mile break in without an oil change?

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The Lexus in Singapore will do first servicing at 1000km and every 10,000km subsequently. I wouldn't wait till 5k miles for the 1st service.
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Originally Posted by Dbaliko
I have a 2015 GS with a little over 1000 miles. I've never had a new car that waited until 5000 miles for the first oil change. Is it really good for the engine to go through the first 5000 mile break in without an oil change?

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First oil change is at 10k miles, which is very soon considering that Porsches get oil changes every 20k and BMWs get oil changes every 15k
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I do it at every 5,000 miles on both of my GS's, it's added peace of mind. We had an adviser from a local independent repair shop that got BMW's that followed the 15k recommended oil changes. When they pulled the valve covers, you would see the damage that 15k and beyond oil changes do to a car, with higher miles.

Regarding the first oil change, many people believe the factory fill has special additives to help the engine break in (I can't comment one way or the other). I've learned from my Viper to change it after 500 miles, that way no remnants from assembly stay in the system much longer than needed. Quite a few owners had motors that grenaded with less than 5k miles. Either assembly lube or metal shavings that ended up destroying the motor. Friends in the performance world will assemble built motors, and after the first start and idle, they do an oil change immediately. It's cheap insurance for a lifetime of fun.
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Originally Posted by Dbaliko
I have a 2015 GS with a little over 1000 miles. I've never had a new car that waited until 5000 miles for the first oil change.
Well, you still don't. Lexus recommends 10k, or 12 months between oil changes.
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Peace of mind is relative to what makes you feel good....at 10k miles, my oil was still clean.
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I do mine at 10k and after 3.75 years and 27k miles later, the car still runs fine!
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Truth be known, the engine oil and filter could easily go 30,000 miles of normal driving conditions and still test perfectly good for another 10,000 miles.

The 'old school' method of changing the engine oil and filter after just 500 or 1,000 miles in a new car to get rid of metal particles in a new engine is simply not necessary with today's engines. And, changing today's engine oil and filter every 5,000 miles is like changing your air filter every 6 months, or like using fuel injector cleaner every third fuel fill-up. The SN engine oils and new car engine building practices are far different from the old oils and practices used decades ago. But, if it gives you piece of mind - then by all means do it...change it every day.
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I do it every 5000 miles
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Originally Posted by bclexus
Truth be known, the engine oil and filter could easily go 30,000 miles of normal driving conditions and still test perfectly good for another 10,000 miles.

The 'old school' method of changing the engine oil and filter after just 500 or 1,000 miles in a new car to get rid of metal particles in a new engine is simply not necessary with today's engines. And, changing today's engine oil and filter every 5,000 miles is like changing your air filter every 6 months, or like using fuel injector cleaner every third fuel fill-up. The SN engine oils and new car engine building practices are far different from the old oils and practices used decades ago. But, if it gives you piece of mind - then by all means do it...change it every day.
ive been telling my Dad for ages and now he's with a new Nissan sentra, just hit the 5k and I told him wait Dad!! Please.... atleast 10k. He kept quiet, i'll see if he's does anything. I even showed him write ups and he looked at me like I had 2 heads...
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If I sold motor oil for a living I would tell you to change it every 3k miles or 6 months.....what great marketing
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isnt that dependant on different driving condition also. severe condition or normal? mine usually short trip. each way is less than 10 miles and stop/go city driving with alot of traffic like. the temperature here is like 29 to 34C all year round. I do EO change every 5k miles.
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Originally Posted by Malu59RT
I do it at every 5,000 miles on both of my GS's, it's added peace of mind. We had an adviser from a local independent repair shop that got BMW's that followed the 15k recommended oil changes. When they pulled the valve covers, you would see the damage that 15k and beyond oil changes do to a car, with higher miles.

Regarding the first oil change, many people believe the factory fill has special additives to help the engine break in (I can't comment one way or the other). I've learned from my Viper to change it after 500 miles, that way no remnants from assembly stay in the system much longer than needed. Quite a few owners had motors that grenaded with less than 5k miles. Either assembly lube or metal shavings that ended up destroying the motor. Friends in the performance world will assemble built motors, and after the first start and idle, they do an oil change immediately. It's cheap insurance for a lifetime of fun.
It's 10K miles. The Stealership is pulling a fast one on you. You can change the minder settings yourself to 10K because the Stealership sets it to 5K. I don't think Toyota spent millions of dollars on R &D for nothing. plus today's oils are way better than it was 20yrs ago. I owned a 2007 BMW 335i, and changed oil every 15K miles per BMW using BMW specified oil, and no oil sludge or damage. Trust the Toyota engineers, change oil every 10K miles with Toyota specified synthetic oil and you shhould be fine.
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My friends 2015 Lamborghini hurcan calls for like 15k mile oil service
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An oil change for a Bugatti Veyron costs over $20,000!


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