052SI

Not all GS's are $50-$60,000, there are plenty in the $40's-50 range but that's not the point here, it relates to a potential trend, it's varying degrees across the country based on hh income and that the acceleration in car sales may begin to slow and thus cause car manf's to up their incentives which would be nice and incentives are the theme of the thread.

The wealthy may not be as affected, but people buying $55k cars as their only car aren't necessarily wealthy but comfortable for the most part (there are always exceptions).

LEX7861

+1, economy does matter for GS buyers, may be economy is not a factor for people looking in to buying LFA

a310pilot

I agree. GS is a small business owner car not a BIG business owner car.

and we all know small businesses are the backbone of our economy.

SW17LS

Historically though January is a very slow month for auto sales...

Joeb427

iTrader: (1)

True but the Dec incentives would have brought that Jan number up a lot.
Slowest auto sale months are Jan & Feb and yet no incentives.

052SI

Lexus has been offering a "pull forward" program where they will absorb up to 4 payment on current Lexus leases, plus $750 coupons, but nothing like the Dec to Remember event. Maybe the spring event will be good.

SW17LS

To qualify for the incentives though the sale would have had to be booked as December...so it would be included in the December figures, even if the car was delivered in January...

teejs

No details yet on the Lexus site, but it shows up on the homepage. Also found this:
It just talks about increasing awareness and bringing more people in to the stores, but nothing about special offers.

052SI

Great find, nice work. Sounds like Lexus is cranking up the tv time but also referring to it as a national sales event...hope they're going back to 27 mo leases vs 36 for the same terms. We were made one heck of an offer on a '13 BMW 535 M Sport today...very hard to pass up but we are waiting to see what the new GSFS incentives are. Nice thing about the 535 is it already has the 8 speed and maint is included.

teejs

I was looking at the 535 M-sport too. I think its a great car, but right now, for me, the GS is the better all-rounder. Production of the LCI (refreshed) 5-series starts in July, with deliveries expected in September/October I believe, and the expectation is that they will be making steering modifications, and the 550 will get more power. I don't want the pre-LCI knowing that the updated one is just around the corner, but I can't wait much longer. And I know this isn't a great reason, but there are just so many 5 series in my area!

LexusNN

iTrader: (5)

Yes the command performance sales event starts today and ends the 31st. No word on programs yet

LEX7861

Looks like i am not the only one here who came to this forum to ask about "Command Performance Sales Even", i feel this sales even it only for GS AND IS models. Looks like who ever is in the market for GSF also are looking at 535 M-Sport. It is for the same reason as "teejs" said i also backed out of 535 M-Sport.

Please post any details available soon

052SI, could you please share your deal details on 2013 535 M-Sport.

052SI

Hey guys here’s the "skinny" on the 535 M Sport and LCI

The LCI changes for '14 are as follows:

Very slight alteration to the lower front bumper/opening and fog light/trim
Slight alteration to the rear bumper and slight redesign to the rear tail lighting elements but not the shape of the light housings.
Slight interior enhancements including the updated I drive from the 7 series
Changes to steering feel
Slight improvement in engines efficiency for the TT6 N55 (the V8 is all new however)
Modest price increase
The overall profile of the car remains unchanged and should be shown next week in Geneva

Here's the car we have our name on:

Description MSRP
Model Code 135C 535i Sedan USD 53,400.00
Color 354 Titanium Silver Metallic 550.00
Upholstery LCSW Black Dakota Leather N/C
Options ZLS Luxury Seating Package 2,400.00
453 Front ventilated seats N/C
455 Active front seats N/C
456 Multi-contour seats N/C
ZMP M Sport Package 2,900.00
ZPP Premium Package 1,500.00
316 Power tailgate N/C
322 Comfort Access keyless entry N/C
655 Satellite radio with 1 year subscription N/C
337 M Sport Package N/C
2ND 19" Light alloy Double-spoke wheels style 351M-with N/C
4CE† Anthracite Wood Trim N/C
704 M sport suspension N/C
710 M steering wheel N/C
715 Aerodynamic kit N/C
760 Shadowline exterior trim N/C
775 Anthracite headliner N/C
840 Increased top speed limiter N/C
1CA CO2 relevant vehicles N/C
205 STEPTRONIC automatic transmission N/C
3AG Rear-view camera 400.00
494 Heated front seats 500.00
508 Park Distance Control 750.00
615 Online Information Services N/C
Net Total 62,400.00
Destination Charge 895.00
Gas Guzzler Tax N/C
Training/Service Fee N/C
Total Suggested Price 63,295.00
Total MSRP excludes all taxes, title/documentary fees, registration, tags, BMW center preparation charges, VDC Installed Accessories, BMW center installed options,
insurance, certificate of compliance or non-compliance fees, and finance charges. Prices may vary by BMW center.
† Alternate

With the very good chance the 14 GSF gets the new 8 speed and incentives on the GSF not so great, the BMW 535 M-Sport with its great incentives may be the way to go unless the Lexus March event proves to be better. I like the fact the BMW already has the 8 speed, is twin turbo, you can choose the interior trim with the M sport (we went with athrct wood) and the look with the M sport is awesome. I'm not a big fan of run flat tires but some are coming with the new run flat Michelins which are the best out there right now. Also the fact all maint is included, including brakes is another big plus.

The lease deal is 36/15, inceptions (1st mo, lic/reg only) at signing $663.00 per mo with tax incl'd, I have an excellent relationship with the GM of the dealership and he always does right by us, we are also top tier + credit.. This deal is even better than the deal we were getting on a $57k GSF (it was about the same payment but with $2500 due at signing) and this car is $63k with maint included.

Since both the M Sport and F Sport are excellent cars we'd be happy either way, but are going for the better value...let's see what happens.

I hope she gets either car soon to disctract her, as her Grandfather's condition has worsened and has about a 50/50 chance to make it.

sydtoosic

all i saw was complimentary first month payment on all leases.

SW17LS

I'd be interested to know what BMW's money factor and residual is on that 5 series...