When will there be a V8 engine for the 4th generation GS?
02-14-13, 06:08 AM
#31
Lexus Champion
Thread Starter
A Lexus GS-F that only targets against the Audi S6 is not gonna cut it in my opinion.
Otherwise, Lexus should just call it a GS500 F-sport instead.
A TRUE 4th Generation Lexus GS-F would have AT LEAST 500 HP in order to compete in a league that has competitors such as Audi RS6, BMW M5, MB E63 AMG, Jaguar XFR, etc.
Anyways, I'm still hoping that Lexus will release a V8 engine for the 4th generation GS =)
Otherwise, Lexus should just call it a GS500 F-sport instead.
A TRUE 4th Generation Lexus GS-F would have AT LEAST 500 HP in order to compete in a league that has competitors such as Audi RS6, BMW M5, MB E63 AMG, Jaguar XFR, etc.
Anyways, I'm still hoping that Lexus will release a V8 engine for the 4th generation GS =)
02-14-13, 06:51 AM
#33
I agree that Lexus needs to make it at least 500hp but wouldnt that be the same hp as the LFA. I think that the price will be close with the German's but they also have to make sure the price isn't crazy which I think would turn buyers away. I think 80K is a reasonable assumption. 100K and it would be around the German's so many would say why not get one of the German cars. I think it will be 10K less than German's. Can't we just flood emails to Lexus stating how many people want a V8, or even more hp.
02-14-13, 09:55 AM
#34
I agree that Lexus needs to make it at least 500hp but wouldnt that be the same hp as the LFA. I think that the price will be close with the German's but they also have to make sure the price isn't crazy which I think would turn buyers away. I think 80K is a reasonable assumption. 100K and it would be around the German's so many would say why not get one of the German cars. I think it will be 10K less than German's. Can't we just flood emails to Lexus stating how many people want a V8, or even more hp.
02-14-13, 10:05 AM
#35
it will sell, but i am not sure if it will be significant though. if lexus cares about sales and don't want to upset the EPA regulations down the road, i can see why gs500 is omitted. but still should just have a gsf to play with the big dogs
lfa is 552, but then again i don't see the relationship. i don't see why lfa has to have the most hp so to speak. just look at the sls vs sl65. both m5 and e63 are into 100k already, so 10k and it will be 90k for gsf
lfa is 552, but then again i don't see the relationship. i don't see why lfa has to have the most hp so to speak. just look at the sls vs sl65. both m5 and e63 are into 100k already, so 10k and it will be 90k for gsf
This is my take also, why can't they have the ***** to put out a V8 on their top models regardless of sales figures, isn't selling cars to car enthusiast about building relationships? I mean if they don't make money on us buying a GS500, but they will make money on our family members buying an LS, ES, and IS. The LFA isn't for profit so why not a V8 GS to complement the LS. Though, the GS350 is okay for most people, but if you like V8's, you only have two choices LS or ISF, there's no middle car?!
02-15-13, 08:31 AM
#39
Lexus Fanatic
This is my take also, why can't they have the ***** to put out a V8 on their top models regardless of sales figures, isn't selling cars to car enthusiast about building relationships? I mean if they don't make money on us buying a GS500, but they will make money on our family members buying an LS, ES, and IS. The LFA isn't for profit so why not a V8 GS to complement the LS. Though, the GS350 is okay for most people, but if you like V8's, you only have two choices LS or ISF, there's no middle car?!
Its like a manual. They have done manuals before, and they haven't been successful.
They're not going to take the CAFE hit if the car isn't going to sell.
02-15-13, 10:08 AM
#40
Because they've done it before and it hasn't been successful. Its not like Lexus has never had a V8 in the GS and we're hoping they will put one in, they had a V8 for years and sales were very poor. They also have the hybrid now and in their mind, that replaces the V8.
Its like a manual. They have done manuals before, and they haven't been successful.
They're not going to take the CAFE hit if the car isn't going to sell.
Its like a manual. They have done manuals before, and they haven't been successful.
They're not going to take the CAFE hit if the car isn't going to sell.
02-15-13, 11:07 AM
#43
I find it hard to believe it would be that difficult.
Same car, different parts, quick plug ins,
and dropping an engine and transmission
on a line takes little time. Ths vette changes
parts, engines, tranmissions frequently
in production.
02-15-13, 11:48 AM
#44
interesting point. too bad we will never know, but i wonder if there are solid numbers on the gs300 vs gs400/430 (2gs) sales and then gs300/350 vs gs430/460 (3gs). i personally see more v8 2gs than v8 3gs overall. my feeling is because gs460 is a little underpowered for what it was. if it had 380hp like that in the ls460, it might be more attractive
02-15-13, 12:08 PM
#45
Pit Crew
Because they've done it before and it hasn't been successful. Its not like Lexus has never had a V8 in the GS and we're hoping they will put one in, they had a V8 for years and sales were very poor. They also have the hybrid now and in their mind, that replaces the V8.
Its like a manual. They have done manuals before, and they haven't been successful.
They're not going to take the CAFE hit if the car isn't going to sell.
Its like a manual. They have done manuals before, and they haven't been successful.
They're not going to take the CAFE hit if the car isn't going to sell.