Noisy Engine?!? Why so poor sounding?
02-04-18, 11:24 AM
#91
I'm not defending anything, I'm just explaining. I no longer even own the car. Your statement that your RL accomplished the same HP and MPG as the GS is not true, in fact its a perfect example of why modern engines have DI. Your RL had 300 HP and 271 lb ft of torque. Your GS has 306 hp and 277 lb ft of torque, so essentially the same. However, if you compare the GS and the RL's fuel economy (comparing AWD GS to AWD RL since the RL only came AWD I believe), the GS gets 2MPH better city and highway. Thats ~ 10% better fuel economy despite having slightly more power, and a more robust (and efficiency robbing) AWD system. I assume since you are in TX yours is RWD and your mileage per the EPA is dramatically better than the RL.
The 3.5L is Lexus' first engine with DI, as they become more accustomed to it they will design out and hide the sound from the injectors.
The 3.5L is Lexus' first engine with DI, as they become more accustomed to it they will design out and hide the sound from the injectors.
It is just a shame we cannot have the best of both worlds.
Last edited by DallasDave; 02-04-18 at 11:26 AM. Reason: typo
02-04-18, 11:31 AM
#92
Lol, RL probably didn't have direct injection, etc. I don't mind it at all, I also find it amusing that people buy these cars, then ***** about the noise.... did you not test drive the car? Did you not run it at the dealer before signing off on it? Did you think it was going to go away? lol.
This is a 2GR-thing, I guess I'm just desensitized to it because I've had the same thing (albeit less prominent) in the V6 Camry I owned for years. It's "normal" and it ain't going away. If it bothers you that much, then Toyota probably isn't the brand for you, because a lot of their motors make this noise, or some variation of it.
Although that said, I've heard Audis and other cars with similar noises, so if you're that sensitive to it, you might want to listen to every car you buy, before you buy it... or just buy a hybrid or something.
About the only noise my GS makes which is starting to get annoying is that stupid brake squealing issue... but even that... minor nit land.
-Mike
This is a 2GR-thing, I guess I'm just desensitized to it because I've had the same thing (albeit less prominent) in the V6 Camry I owned for years. It's "normal" and it ain't going away. If it bothers you that much, then Toyota probably isn't the brand for you, because a lot of their motors make this noise, or some variation of it.
Although that said, I've heard Audis and other cars with similar noises, so if you're that sensitive to it, you might want to listen to every car you buy, before you buy it... or just buy a hybrid or something.
About the only noise my GS makes which is starting to get annoying is that stupid brake squealing issue... but even that... minor nit land.
-Mike
I'm glad you are in love with yours, good luck!
02-05-18, 08:42 AM
#93
Wanted to provide my two cents. Back in 2006, I had every intention to purchase a Lexus GS 300 until I drove the '06 Acura RL. The RL feels much more refined, has a better interior, and overall feels like a much better built vehicle. Eventually it does gets boring. Fast forward 11 years, my RL was totalled in an no-fault accident and I've decided to go back to Lexus. When purchasing my '17 GS 350 AWD, my expectation is that this is a performance sports sedan and I expected more on performance than pure luxury refinement. Some engine sound (not noise) is expected from a performance sedan. I'm happy with my purchase and the GS puts a smile on my face everyday. The direct injection Atkinson cycle engine on the GS is an engineering wonder. When I want spirited driving during the weekend, it delivers. When I want silent freeway cruise on long trips, it delivers. When I want decent MPG for daily commutes, it delivers. My only complaint is the drivetrain on the GS has a whine between 40-50mph, which the RL doesn't. I guess you can't have everything.
Last edited by Flanker271; 02-05-18 at 08:48 AM.
02-05-18, 09:54 AM
#94
Wanted to provide my two cents. Back in 2006, I had every intention to purchase a Lexus GS 300 until I drove the '06 Acura RL. The RL feels much more refined, has a better interior, and overall feels like a much better built vehicle. Eventually it does gets boring. Fast forward 11 years, my RL was totalled in an no-fault accident and I've decided to go back to Lexus. When purchasing my '17 GS 350 AWD, my expectation is that this is a performance sports sedan and I expected more on performance than pure luxury refinement. Some engine sound (not noise) is expected from a performance sedan. I'm happy with my purchase and the GS puts a smile on my face everyday. The direct injection Atkinson cycle engine on the GS is an engineering wonder. When I want spirited driving during the weekend, it delivers. When I want silent freeway cruise on long trips, it delivers. When I want decent MPG for daily commutes, it delivers. My only complaint is the drivetrain on the GS has a whine between 40-50mph, which the RL doesn't. I guess you can't have everything.
http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/...dPdf?id=192696
Strangely enough though I haven't heard this from my car, so it must not be a consistent thing....
-Mike
02-05-18, 10:12 AM
#95
It's funny because Lexus has a TSB for this but it doesn't apply to 2017s... but I'm betting its the same damned problem, lol
http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/...dPdf?id=192696
Strangely enough though I haven't heard this from my car, so it must not be a consistent thing....
-Mike
http://www.revbase.com/BBBMotor/TSb/...dPdf?id=192696
Strangely enough though I haven't heard this from my car, so it must not be a consistent thing....
-Mike
02-05-18, 12:20 PM
#96
02-07-18, 02:38 PM
#97
OMG.!!.. Im a new 08 GS350 owner and i feel the EXACT same way.... I know this is an old post.., im going to read the rest of the threads but. YES.. my Saab 9-5 has 190,000 on it and i can barely hear it... Love the GS but dang !! (at idle).. i wasnt expecting it to be this loud. especially for a Lexus... my little sister drives an ES... after riding in her car, i feel like. I should of had a V8 .(juice commercial) ..... i wish there was a way to silence it... ps,.. i understand this is 4th gen.. im just commenting..
If you have sounds from pulleys and belts in your 4GS you have a problem lol. No such sounds were present in my GS, yes it had a diesel like clatter at idle, that’s the DI system. My LS’s have it also to a lesser degree.
I'm shocked to read you post positive attributes of your GS. All we ever read from you are complaints. Thats whats so tiresome.
I'm shocked to read you post positive attributes of your GS. All we ever read from you are complaints. Thats whats so tiresome.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/gs-...ml#post7187094
There must be more positives than negatives if we're going to buy any car.
Being pessimistic is not the way, but being optimistic is not the way either; it is best to be a realist, and realize both the strengths and weaknesses of a product.
Of course, some people are very self righteous, opinionated, and overly optimistic about what they own; they like to think that their own opinion is right, while other people's opinions are wrong.
It is important to give constructive feedback to the manufacturer, otherwise current 4GS ends up with peak annual sales of only 23,000+ units/year USA, at a time when the recent E Class & 5 Series got to peak at 69,000+ & 56,000+ units respectively in 2013, and all this silly talk of GS line being axed.
If you don't tell President Akio what "you" think of his new 5LS, he will keep heading in that direction.
When you do tell him, of course opinions are subjective and differ from person to person, but statisticians will simply "average-out" the varying opinions to obtain a more objective mean [average], upon which to set new guidelines.
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
