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Old Mar 7, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I am 99.9% certain. Early 2012 as a 2013 model.

Good chance of the next ES debuting in fall 2012 as a 2013 model as well.
cool!!! more discussion with my wife needed!
Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I am 99.9% certain. Early 2012 as a 2013 model.

Good chance of the next ES debuting in fall 2012 as a 2013 model as well.
Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
4GS to debut in fall, to be sold in Spring 2012 as a 2013 model.
Cool, thanks
Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
I'm thinking it may debut before that..the big Frankfurt show is in September this year (alternates with Paris show which was in 2010). Though the LA show is a great guess.

Dont forget about the Tokyo Auto Show usually around October.
Old Mar 7, 2011 | 08:58 PM
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G-brilliant!
Old Mar 7, 2011 | 09:46 PM
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If they do release it early 2012 as a 2013, that would make the current GS one hell of a long run. Too long in my opinion. A hotly contested segment needs fresher products much faster than that.
Old Mar 7, 2011 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fizzboy7
If they do release it early 2012 as a 2013, that would make the current GS one hell of a long run. Too long in my opinion. A hotly contested segment needs fresher products much faster than that.

it's the norm.

bmw: 2004-2010

gs: 2006-2012.

mbz: 2003-2009

only infiniti has the shortest cycle.

it's really not about how fresh it is. people just prefer german cars.
with the 5 and E, I can't even tell which year is which. The refreshes were all so subtle.

200420072010

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Old Mar 8, 2011 | 04:46 AM
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I really think that an AWD GSh would sell well.
Old Mar 8, 2011 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
it's the norm.

bmw: 2004-2010

gs: 2006-2012.

mbz: 2003-2009

only infiniti has the shortest cycle.

it's really not about how fresh it is. people just prefer german cars.
with the 5 and E, I can't even tell which year is which. The refreshes were all so subtle.

200420072010
I think 3GS run started in 2005 but it carried 2006 on a sticker in US only. It was 2005MY in rest of the world. So it would basically be a 6 year run if they start selling 4GS in March of 2012 but it felt so long. Maybe because "facelifts" were just too light.

5-6 years is about right cycle for new models I think.
Old Mar 8, 2011 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by GFerg
Dont forget about the Tokyo Auto Show usually around October.
Tokyo Auto show is later than usual this year. It's in early December, even after the Los Angeles Auto Show.
Old Mar 8, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Vladi
I think 3GS run started in 2005 but it carried 2006 on a sticker in US only. It was 2005MY in rest of the world. So it would basically be a 6 year run if they start selling 4GS in March of 2012 but it felt so long. Maybe because "facelifts" were just too light.

5-6 years is about right cycle for new models I think.


regardless of what model year was designated to them, all of the cars in this segment will have had 7 full calendar years' life. except the infiniti.

GS started selling spring 2005, and will continue to spring 2012.
Old Mar 8, 2011 | 04:15 PM
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I loved my GS, truly luxury car... but i think main problem was packaging - there was not enough space in the back or in the trunk to be true competitor to E or 5 series...
Old Mar 8, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dunnojack
regardless of what model year was designated to them, all of the cars in this segment will have had 7 full calendar years' life. except the infiniti.

GS started selling spring 2005, and will continue to spring 2012.
Yes, b/c luxury car buyers do not want to see their car change every 4-5 years, especially if they dropped serious coin on it. Since most Infinitis are rebadged Nissans they simply use the Nissan cycle and not their own. They also depend on leasing so they are not building brand loyalty, just lease payments.

I, like most owners of the E/5/GS are quite satisfied seeing minimal changes and having a good 7 or so year cycle. If I want a car that changes every 3-5 years I'll get a Toyota.
Old Mar 9, 2011 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX
Yes, b/c luxury car buyers do not want to see their car change every 4-5 years, especially if they dropped serious coin on it. Since most Infinitis are rebadged Nissans they simply use the Nissan cycle and not their own. They also depend on leasing so they are not building brand loyalty, just lease payments.

I, like most owners of the E/5/GS are quite satisfied seeing minimal changes and having a good 7 or so year cycle. If I want a car that changes every 3-5 years I'll get a Toyota.
i think reality is more closer to the premium brands not selling enough vehicles to have more aggressive cycle and Infiniti trying to catch up with faster development.
Old Mar 9, 2011 | 10:00 AM
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I'm hoping the color "Imperial Jade Mica" makes a comeback with the new GS. The current greens Lexus have been using are kind of crappy.
Old Mar 9, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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I vote for truffle mica...please please please!



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