Light wheels make a difference!
Nice! There was a Guy I have see a few times on YT who has what I thought was claimed to be the fastest GT R. He also is in Texas. I think Dallas. They showed many night time street races, man the car is so fast. It beats everything.
But why are we talking about this now?
But why are we talking about this now?
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Nice! There was a Guy I have see a few times on YT who has what I thought was claimed to be the fastest GT R. He also is in Texas. I think Dallas. They showed many night time street races, man the car is so fast. It beats everything.
But why are we talking about this now?
But why are we talking about this now?
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Three months apart run are not really a accurate comparison. Race track engine builders will tell you at the track they Tune by Humidity. Temp can be same, Humidity can change far different 3 month later. Very inconsistent to use as comparisons. Cali is also well known for Smog number from day to day.
Actual street runs are Not Dyno races, or Draggy computations races. You can deal with that. I have long dealt with the streets. I like to see my car perform lined up on the Track or street, light to light. You can't tell me that if you are walking all other GS460's with the same mods, your GS460 is not faster than the others? Makes no sense. No one matches up cars doing Dyno races or Dragy races. They are like for like hp cars, with similar Mods.
If you guys want to say wheels and tires, thinking it beats adding 50+ hp Mods, I don't know what to tell you. There was a guy here with a GS350 a few months ago that got the D3 Tune. He had only CAI if I remember correctly. He did some accurate back to back runs. He cut a .5 sec off with just the Tune. Also there's no way you can tell me if you have Headers and Tune you did not feel the difference. I understand what you are saying about the lighten drivetrain, but vs the Mods the op posted in his 1st post is just so.....
. There are also diff weight tires, same size or different (Snow Tires), heavy and light Brake Rotors, all rotating mass weight also. You have your opinion, this is Mine. Think about what a Bolt On Mod 4.3sec IS350 does on the street with some other cars? We we know a Prius wont beat a Hellcat, SRT or Demon. But a Demon that walks on others Demon is faster period. Dragy, Dyno whatever.
Actual street runs are Not Dyno races, or Draggy computations races. You can deal with that. I have long dealt with the streets. I like to see my car perform lined up on the Track or street, light to light. You can't tell me that if you are walking all other GS460's with the same mods, your GS460 is not faster than the others? Makes no sense. No one matches up cars doing Dyno races or Dragy races. They are like for like hp cars, with similar Mods.
If you guys want to say wheels and tires, thinking it beats adding 50+ hp Mods, I don't know what to tell you. There was a guy here with a GS350 a few months ago that got the D3 Tune. He had only CAI if I remember correctly. He did some accurate back to back runs. He cut a .5 sec off with just the Tune. Also there's no way you can tell me if you have Headers and Tune you did not feel the difference. I understand what you are saying about the lighten drivetrain, but vs the Mods the op posted in his 1st post is just so.....
. There are also diff weight tires, same size or different (Snow Tires), heavy and light Brake Rotors, all rotating mass weight also. You have your opinion, this is Mine. Think about what a Bolt On Mod 4.3sec IS350 does on the street with some other cars? We we know a Prius wont beat a Hellcat, SRT or Demon. But a Demon that walks on others Demon is faster period. Dragy, Dyno whatever.I definitely noticed a difference after the headers and retune, in fact my times haven't gotten much better because I'm suffering for traction. My 60 foot is .2 seconds slower, so I need BETTER tires than the ones I have, meaning they are even more important now. Power mods can only do so much if you can't put the power down.
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You can whine all you want about the differences in the runs since you refuse to make any yourself, but my point still stands, wheels and tires and make a major difference, and for me was much cheaper than FBO. I haven't seen any evidence to support that a tune can shave off that much. please link his dragy or time slips.
I definitely noticed a difference after the headers and retune, in fact my times haven't gotten much better because I'm suffering for traction. My 60 foot is .2 seconds slower, so I need BETTER tires than the ones I have, meaning they are even more important now. Power mods can only do so much if you can't put the power down.
I definitely noticed a difference after the headers and retune, in fact my times haven't gotten much better because I'm suffering for traction. My 60 foot is .2 seconds slower, so I need BETTER tires than the ones I have, meaning they are even more important now. Power mods can only do so much if you can't put the power down.
You can whine all you want about the differences in the runs since you refuse to make any yourself, but my point still stands, wheels and tires will make a major difference, and for me was much cheaper than FBO. I haven't seen any evidence to support that a tune can shave off that much. please link his dragy or time slips.
I definitely noticed a difference after the headers and retune, in fact my times haven't gotten much better because I'm suffering for traction. My 60 foot is .2 seconds slower, so I need BETTER tires than the ones I have, meaning they are even more important now. Power mods can only do so much if you can't put the power down.
I definitely noticed a difference after the headers and retune, in fact my times haven't gotten much better because I'm suffering for traction. My 60 foot is .2 seconds slower, so I need BETTER tires than the ones I have, meaning they are even more important now. Power mods can only do so much if you can't put the power down.
What's the use in spending money to performance mod your car if you are just posting Dragy's and Dyno's numbers on the internet?
Here where I am we test in the street vs others cars. And you are right if you can't drive, and lose to a slower car running, then yes you and, your car are slow and got beat, irregardless of excuses of tires, wheels, traction, etc. lol! That's how we rep our mod cars. If you don't have the performance, a Prius with light tires and wheels, and wider traction tires is still a Prius. lol! You might look fast with wheels, but you got the same stock hp on a GS350 dyno average of 260 rear wheel hp. The 460 is no M hp car either.
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For like the 10th diff thread I have told you I have Not finished my car yet. So I have Not done any runs other than street ones. I am not whining, I'm winning.
What's the use in spending money to performance mod your car if you are just posting Dragy's and Dyno's numbers on the internet? Here where I am we test in the street vs others cars. And you are right if you can't drive, and lose to a slower car running, then yes you and, your car are slow and got beat, irregardless of excuses of tires, wheels, traction, etc. lol! That's how we rep our mod cars. If you don't have the performance, a Prius with light tires and wheels, and wider traction tires is still a Prius. lol! You might look fast with wheels, but you got the same stock hp on a GS350 dyno average of 260 rear wheel hp. The 460 is no M hp car either.
What's the use in spending money to performance mod your car if you are just posting Dragy's and Dyno's numbers on the internet?
Here where I am we test in the street vs others cars. And you are right if you can't drive, and lose to a slower car running, then yes you and, your car are slow and got beat, irregardless of excuses of tires, wheels, traction, etc. lol! That's how we rep our mod cars. If you don't have the performance, a Prius with light tires and wheels, and wider traction tires is still a Prius. lol! You might look fast with wheels, but you got the same stock hp on a GS350 dyno average of 260 rear wheel hp. The 460 is no M hp car either.I race other cars all the time, it comes with the territory of driving around a loud modded car. I just don't post about it because I understand how street racing works, its not always the fastest car that wins. Dragy shows me exactly how fast my car is and helps me dial in launches and whatnot. Street racing doesn't. You never know what you're running from race to race. You could be racing slower and slower people yet still winning, all the while your times are getting slower.
Butt dyno's, and racing GPS's, snow tires vs power wheels, and then there's traction problems, and YT's
When one car beating another is meaningless.... because?
I use to race a Kawasaki ZX-7 on the Track. My, my things must have change with the internet now over the years. Also I would love to see what happens when a car loses for money on the street try's using these excuses, excuses, excuses.
When one car beating another is meaningless.... because?
I use to race a Kawasaki ZX-7 on the Track. My, my things must have change with the internet now over the years. Also I would love to see what happens when a car loses for money on the street try's using these excuses, excuses, excuses. 
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Butt dyno's, and racing GPS's, snow tires vs power wheels, and then there's traction problems, and YT's
When one car beating another is meaningless.... because? I use to race a Kawasaki ZX-7 on the Track. My, my things must have change with the internet now over the years. Also I would love to see what happens when a car loses for money on the street try's using these excuses, excuses, excuses.
When one car beating another is meaningless.... because?
I use to race a Kawasaki ZX-7 on the Track. My, my things must have change with the internet now over the years. Also I would love to see what happens when a car loses for money on the street try's using these excuses, excuses, excuses.
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@TreysGS460 your GS is tuned by Loi correct or is it that another member? If you want a grippier tire look into some 200tw ones to better put the power down. Those new Hoosier TrackAttack Pros look sweet, I am thinking of a set for myself personally. If you want a good general summer tire the Michelin pilot-sport 4s is not a bad tire, they have not lasted long for me personally.
@jgscott I know personally how fast that 15 GS350 you are talking about was, and I really do look forward to seeing when your build is done... it'll be a beast.
@jgscott I know personally how fast that 15 GS350 you are talking about was, and I really do look forward to seeing when your build is done... it'll be a beast.
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@TreysGS460 your GS is tuned by Loi correct or is it that another member? If you want a grippier tire look into some 200tw ones to better put the power down. Those new Hoosier TrackAttack Pros look sweet, I am thinking of a set for myself personally. If you want a good general summer tire the Michelin pilot-sport 4s is not a bad tire, they have not lasted long for me personally.
@jgscott I know personally how fast that 15 GS350 you are talking about was, and I really do look forward to seeing when your build is done... it'll be a beast.
@jgscott I know personally how fast that 15 GS350 you are talking about was, and I really do look forward to seeing when your build is done... it'll be a beast.
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Anecdotally, my wife borrowed my car not long ago to run a few errands, I guess my AC is superior to what's left of hers in her old MDX. Anyway she came back and commented directly on the car being more "peppy" and more on rails than before and she's not a car person in the least. I asked her to describe "peppy", she said the car has more get up and go, like "did you do something to make it faster?"
Of course, it was just the new rotary forged wheels and new sticky tires.
Back when I owned turbo cars (or once it was the Durango R/T with a nice new intake ) I would often turn up the boost or mod the tune or whatever was the latest go faster trick and let her figure it out. A little bit of fun for me, like experimenting on an unaware subject, tee hee.
Also, y'all are crazy if you don't think it makes a difference. Is it a difference worth paying for? Depends what your priorities are and what you pay, I suppose. For my particular AWD Lux setup, it made a heck of a difference, one I enjoy immensely each time I get to drive it. But ymmv, as it all goes. I do recommend if you do buy new wheels, buy RF (rotary forged) or forged wheels. The thinner, stronger barrel has less moment of inertia all else equal, and you can feel it just twirling the wheel in your hand.
Of course, it was just the new rotary forged wheels and new sticky tires.
Back when I owned turbo cars (or once it was the Durango R/T with a nice new intake ) I would often turn up the boost or mod the tune or whatever was the latest go faster trick and let her figure it out. A little bit of fun for me, like experimenting on an unaware subject, tee hee.
Also, y'all are crazy if you don't think it makes a difference. Is it a difference worth paying for? Depends what your priorities are and what you pay, I suppose. For my particular AWD Lux setup, it made a heck of a difference, one I enjoy immensely each time I get to drive it. But ymmv, as it all goes. I do recommend if you do buy new wheels, buy RF (rotary forged) or forged wheels. The thinner, stronger barrel has less moment of inertia all else equal, and you can feel it just twirling the wheel in your hand.
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I am here to deliver the truth. Lightweight wheels make a difference.
I am here to deliver the truth. Lightweight wheels make a difference.
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Too many variables for me (different tire, different size) changing for me to agree that there is a MPG improvement, but the rest I would mostly agree with. I love the way my GS handles with my Forgestars. Lighter would be even sweeter but there's probably a diminished returns property in this equation and that makes sense. I will say the faster I go (the harder I drive), the more agile it is compared to what it was with heavy Lux 18's. Still a very smooth ride in 19's even over the potholes, though that's because the DWS06 Plus is a good tire overall.
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@Lanson @peteharvey @LiquidPtGS @TreysGS460
I am here to deliver the truth. Lightweight wheels make a difference.
I am here to deliver the truth. Lightweight wheels make a difference.
You claimed a 5.2 but looks like it would be closer to 6 if you did real testing.
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