Replacing a starter in GS300?
Wondering if anyone has any tips on replacing a starter in the 2006 GS300 AWD? The service manual has a ridiculous number of steps including: removing the front seat, removing the center console, removing the manifold and y-pipe.
Our Y-Pipe is fairly fragile and my mechanic thinks it could break when we try to take it off. Replacing this pipe is like $1800 (thanks NY State). So the worst case scenario is that I have to replace manifold/y-pipe and gaskets - $2400 + $600 for starter. $3k to replace a starter. It seems like there must be a way to get access to that starter without removing everything. The Master tech manual says it's a 3 hr job so I'd be stunned if they actually remove all of the things listed. We're 100+miles from the nearest dealer so that's not an option. Right now the car doesn't start (it will start if you tap the starter) so it's worth $0, but I hate the idea of putting up to $3,000 into a 10 yr old car (which has been a complete disappointment. We've owned 3 Lexus vehicles, but we'll never own another.). |
I have been wanting to see a DIY for a long time. Seems no one has had any starter issues on here.
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DIY video
The only one I could find was for an old GS400 (thru 2005) which seems to also have the starter located in the same crazy spot (under the entire engine basically).
I may go with the original service manual recommend procedure and if anything fails as it's removed (exhaust pipe or exhaust manifold) I'll try to replace it with a salvage parts. Price of the exhaust pipe ($1786 + Tax) and exhaust manifold ($1060 + tax) almost exceed the value of the car. :egads: |
I have done the starter on the 2002 GS300. It is a bit of the pain without a lift. Guess the 2007 GS350 is in similar place. I have a new solenoid cap I wanted to replace on it. These starters don't have the brushes like the 02 GS300 has.
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The starter isn't under the intake manifold. Its under the driver side exhaust manifold. Since they came out I've only done maybe 1 or 2 starters. Its not a very common issue, Then again, most people that own these cars only come in for recalls and warranty work. Its not a difficult job, just time consuming. All that interior stuff does not have to be removed. The manifold and Y pipe must be removed. Basically everything in this picture comes out minus the engine of course.
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Nice diagram
Thx. I'm trying to avoid removing the y-pipe/exhaust manifold (likely they'll fail b/c they are old and brittle).
Those parts are almost $3k so replacing them isn't economical. It seems crazy that a $200 part requires this amount of work. Right now I have a 2000lb paperweight in my driveway so I have to figure out something. ** On another topic - is it possible the anti-theft system could have done something to brick the car? |
nice, thanks for the detail
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What do u mean by it will start by tapping the starter?
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Tapping the starter
My local mechanic (who I trust more than any of the dealers I've dealt with) put the car on a lift got underneath it and "tapped the starter" to free up the solenoid and it started. That led to his diagnosis of a starter. I'm not opposed to replacing the starter, it's just that the process suggested by Lexus could be wildly expensive if the y-pipe or manifold fail to go back together.
I am curious about learning more about the security settings though. My "anti-theft" light blinks all of the time even after the doors are unlocked. I wonder if there is something to that but Lexus won't answer my questions w/out seeing the car. Since the nearest dealer is 100 miles away I'm not going to pay for a tow on a car that might be worthless. |
Originally Posted by Gs3500
(Post 9547948)
What do u mean by it will start by tapping the starter?
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Originally Posted by blantier
(Post 9547638)
It seems crazy that a $200 part requires this amount of work.
Originally Posted by blantier
(Post 9548133)
I wonder if there is something to that but Lexus won't answer my questions w/out seeing the car. Since the nearest dealer is 100 miles away I'm not going to pay for a tow on a car that might be worthless.
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Originally Posted by blantier
(Post 9548133)
My local mechanic (who I trust more than any of the dealers I've dealt with) put the car on a lift got underneath it and "tapped the starter" to free up the solenoid and it started. That led to his diagnosis of a starter. I'm not opposed to replacing the starter, it's just that the process suggested by Lexus could be wildly expensive if the y-pipe or manifold fail to go back together.
I am curious about learning more about the security settings though. My "anti-theft" light blinks all of the time even after the doors are unlocked. I wonder if there is something to that but Lexus won't answer my questions w/out seeing the car. Since the nearest dealer is 100 miles away I'm not going to pay for a tow on a car that might be worthless. |
Originally Posted by Dsweet
(Post 10197925)
Did you ever replace the starter? |
Originally Posted by blantier
(Post 10198538)
No - ended up selling the car for $500 just to get it out of my driveway. The snow tires and rims were probably worth 2x that amount but I wasn't going to part out the car. Frustrating experience and I've left the Lexus family as a result of that GS. I am a 38 yr guy that owned 2 Lexus vehicles - I am going to be buying cars for the next 3 decades and they chased me away to another luxury brand. I know that one buyer doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things to Toyota but it was disappointing that they put such a bad car into production.
FWIW: Move to BMW and watch the repair bills fly up :) Same with Audi, and all the various other brands. My family's witnessed a lot of problems in their vehicles, BMW: Electricals Audi: Combination (electricals & trans) Infiniti: Trans Acura: Trans Lexus: Hybrid System If I kept that mindset, the only luxury ride I would be rolling in would prob be a bicycle lol. All in all, all manufacturers have their problems. You purchased the BIGGEST lemon on the 3GS line-up. Expect it. |
so u have to remove the exhaust manifold?
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