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GS350 V6 vs. GS450 V8

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Old 05-01-10, 03:17 PM
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Default GS350 V6 vs. GS450 V8

is the GS450 v8 REALLY worth it.....vs. the 350?
Can anyone elaborate?
is there any Major Performance difference...acceleration/ torque?

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Old 05-01-10, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RC51TOFUMA
is the GS450 v8 REALLY worth it.....vs. the 350?
Can anyone elaborate?
is there any Major Performance difference...acceleration/ torque?

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you meant gs460...
Old 05-01-10, 04:08 PM
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I've driven both and I have a GS460. I do think it is worth the extra 5grand. It's not just the significantly higher torque and hp, but the gem is the 8 speed transmission from the LS. The LS transmission is probably the smoothest auto in the world (and I say this having driven the most recent S-class and 7 series models.

Also if you live in an area with limited speed restrictions you will love doing 125mph at 1700rpm. Also the acceleration from 60-100 is incredibly fast which makes it much better for slicing through traffic on 2 or 3 lane highways.

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interesting
yeah.....typo...I meant 460
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Here's the transmission you get with the V8


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got it. thanks
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IS there a video of the GS460 acceleration? I just want to compare it with our de-tuned 460s
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Originally Posted by batman75
I've driven both and I have a GS460. I do think it is worth the extra 5grand. It's not just the significantly higher torque and hp, but the gem is the 8 speed transmission from the LS. The LS transmission is probably the smoothest auto in the world (and I say this having driven the most recent S-class and 7 series models.

Also if you live in an area with limited speed restrictions you will love doing 125mph at 1700rpm. Also the acceleration from 60-100 is incredibly fast which makes it much better for slicing through traffic on 2 or 3 lane highways.
+1...

Not to mention the fact the the leather used in the 460's is much better and softer than that in the 350's... They use the semi-aniline leather as they do in the LS's. Also, if you are ok with buying used, you can get the 460 for about the same as you can get the 350. I bought mine from a different dealer for about $500 less than what a Lexus dealer was trying to sell me a GS350 for with higher miles at that....
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Originally Posted by Slamking18
+1...

Not to mention the fact the the leather used in the 460's is much better and softer than that in the 350's... They use the semi-aniline leather as they do in the LS's. Also, if you are ok with buying used, you can get the 460 for about the same as you can get the 350. I bought mine from a different dealer for about $500 less than what a Lexus dealer was trying to sell me a GS350 for with higher miles at that....
to be fair, i believe the semi-aniline leather is an option on 460, not standard. it's definitely an option on the ls460. and yes, it's huge difference between the two.

the 8 speed is also a plus to make it ride quieter and softer, another noticeably difference between the 350 and 460

ty, power wise i don't think the gs460 make sense. if it's the same 380hp engine from the ls460, then yes, that will totally justify it. but the current 342, not so much. don't get me wrong though, it's still different. after all, it's v8, the tq curve is just completely different.

i used to own gs400, sc430, and ls460l. i was very used to the low end tq of the v8. going into the gs350, it really took me some time to get used to it. it doesn't mean the gs350 isn't fast, if i really push it, the gs350 can do a lot of things, but it's no v8. but worth the extra to go for v8? well, obviously i didn't do that.
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Originally Posted by rominl
to be fair, i believe the semi-aniline leather is an option on 460, not standard. it's definitely an option on the ls460. and yes, it's huge difference between the two.
Everywhere I have read states close to the following:

"In addition to the changes made on all 2008 GS models, the GS 460 adds semi-aniline leather trim and ventilated front seats as standard luxury features."

I tried looking on my sticker and nothing really points out semi-aniline, but I know mine does have it as I have compared to my brother IS350 and my parents ES350. Mine is much softer and natural looking.

Originally Posted by rominl
ty, power wise i don't think the gs460 make sense. if it's the same 380hp engine from the ls460, then yes, that will totally justify it. but the current 342, not so much. don't get me wrong though, it's still different. after all, it's v8, the tq curve is just completely different.

i used to own gs400, sc430, and ls460l. i was very used to the low end tq of the v8. going into the gs350, it really took me some time to get used to it. it doesn't mean the gs350 isn't fast, if i really push it, the gs350 can do a lot of things, but it's no v8. but worth the extra to go for v8? well, obviously i didn't do that.
Agreed, it pisses me off that Lexus de-tuned the 460 from the LS and didn't just leave it at the 380 HP, but... the torque is very noticeable. If I were to buy a GS brand new... I can't say for certain if I would fork out the extra 5k just for 40 hp more , 2 extra gears, and better leather, but like I said above, it was a no brainer when I was able to find the 460 at the same price as a GS350 which had more miles at that.

I guess one other thing that is somewhat of a downside for getting the GS460 is the limitation of mods available for it. I'm guessing because the 460 is somewhat of a limited make, no one really takes the time to R&D their products for it. Granted, alot of the parts made for the 350 will work, there are some that won't.
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Originally Posted by Slamking18
Everywhere I have read states close to the following:

"In addition to the changes made on all 2008 GS models, the GS 460 adds semi-aniline leather trim and ventilated front seats as standard luxury features."

I tried looking on my sticker and nothing really points out semi-aniline, but I know mine does have it as I have compared to my brother IS350 and my parents ES350. Mine is much softer and natural looking.



Agreed, it pisses me off that Lexus de-tuned the 460 from the LS and didn't just leave it at the 380 HP, but... the torque is very noticeable. If I were to buy a GS brand new... I can't say for certain if I would fork out the extra 5k just for 40 hp more , 2 extra gears, and better leather, but like I said above, it was a no brainer when I was able to find the 460 at the same price as a GS350 which had more miles at that.

I guess one other thing that is somewhat of a downside for getting the GS460 is the limitation of mods available for it. I'm guessing because the 460 is somewhat of a limited make, no one really takes the time to R&D their products for it. Granted, alot of the parts made for the 350 will work, there are some that won't.
oh, could be semi-aniline is standard on 460? i never follow that. i was just thinking that since semi-aniline is optional on ls460.
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Originally Posted by rominl
oh, could be semi-aniline is standard on 460? i never follow that. i was just thinking that since semi-aniline is optional on ls460.
Forgot to mention that everything I have found so far states that semi-aniline is standard on the 450h as well since 2008...
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that makes more sense....thanks henry and slamking
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Originally Posted by batman75
Here's the transmission you get with the V8
That's not the exact same transmission as in the GS 460, as the one in the picture has 2 output shafts (i.e is AWD).


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