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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 06:55 PM
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We're a vendor here in CL that specializes in custom headlights and permanent headlight restoration. We're currently building a custom set, but we can't seem to find a complete guide/list for the 2nd gen GS differences through its years. We were hoping some people can answer a few questions we have so we can finish up the wiring.

What are the differences in the tints through the years? We see clear, black chrome and green? Any specific years/models they came out?

Are there any specific differences in appearance, shape or size? Will each fit any year GS?

Which bulb is the daytime running light? Is it the the small peanut bulb in the high beams? Or is it the high beam itself controlled by a module to appear dimmer in the morning?

Thanks in advance!

Here are a few sample photos we have of GS headlights we have restored in the past for reference of our work as well. Please visit our website or social media for more information on any of our services. Thank you!

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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 07:39 PM
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The green housings were 01-05, while the smoke housings are from Sport Design models.

All years are interchangeable. The only functional differences are the HID and non-HID headlamps. The HID lamps also have automatic leveling.

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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by firelizard
Yes, the 194 bulb in the inner lamp is the DRL for North American models.
Incorrect. The 194 is a "city light" aka marker. The highbeams at reduced voltage are NA DRL's.
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Organized Garage Status
Good PM guys!

We're a vendor here in CL that specializes in custom headlights and permanent headlight restoration. We're currently building a custom set, but we can't seem to find a complete guide/list for the 2nd gen GS differences through its years. We were hoping some people can answer a few questions we have so we can finish up the wiring.

What are the differences in the tints through the years? We see clear, black chrome and green? Any specific years/models they came out?

Are there any specific differences in appearance, shape or size? Will each fit any year GS?

Which bulb is the daytime running light? Is it the the small peanut bulb in the high beams? Or is it the high beam itself controlled by a module to appear dimmer in the morning?
all 2nd Gen Gs headlights will interchange physically

you have the skills to retro a set but cant figure out what bulb does what (by looking) at them OR search to find this info? your selling me on your skills already

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The green housings were 01-04, while the smoke housings are from Sport Design models.
green housings were 01-05, NOT ALL SD's got the "gun metaL" i think it was starting in 2002
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 01:07 PM
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those lights pictured above look super cloudy? Please tell me those are the before pics?
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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 03:13 PM
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Thank you for the reply guys, we truly appreciate the information!

Can we please get a second opinion since we're getting conflicting information? The reason we ask this, is because we would like to pre-wire the headlights to work for any year model for future customers.

We can't figure out the wiring because we only have the headlights. It would be extremely impractical for the customer to send us his entire car from the East Coast just so we can figure out the wiring.

Those headlights are as clear as they can be. The cloudiness is permanent damage to the plastic as a result of clear coating the headlights and God knows what else the previous owner did to it before.

Here are the before shots for reference:

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Old Mar 23, 2016 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Organized Garage Status
Can we please get a second opinion since we're getting conflicting information?
You can search the forum for "DRL" and see the many threads that cover the topic. It's been discussed at length as people attempted to disable them since halogen bulbs at reduced wattage have a rather unsightly color.

2012
Originally Posted by SorrGwa
DRL use your stock 9005 bulb @ 6V's
High bean use your stock 9005 @ 12V
parking light is the mini wedge bulb 168/192 that sits in the high beam housing.
2006
Originally Posted by BossGS4
Daytime Running Light = High Beam Lamp @ half voltage

The smaller bulb you see in the High beam housing is what's commonly referred to as the wedge light or city light . This small bulb only comes on with your low beams.
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for a vendor I would think they would be better/clearer....I would just buy new.
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 08:39 AM
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Without any disrespect, ClubLexus is "organized" as well, with search tools to boot.
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by SoCal Cyco
for a vendor I would think they would be better/clearer....I would just buy new.
they do appear a little "milky" but i wonder if its cause they are surrounded by a white cloth. i wonder if he took a pic on the car or on a desk i think they would look much better. i think

OP im partially just giving you a hard time earlier and partially being serious, any pics of some retros you have done for the 2nd gen gs preferrably?
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 09:25 AM
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as stated b4 the drl bulbs are the actual high beam bulb (9005) powered only at 6v when they lights and high beams are turned on they get the full 12v making them much brighter then in the drl state. the green tint is not on the glas its actually the bezel chrome tinted lightly. all light are interchangable and will bolt right up the only major diffrence is the auto level feature they will still bolt up to a non leveling model gs just the auto level wont work and the balast plug for hid is diffrent than the 9006 low beam plug used on non auto level gs models.
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Old Mar 24, 2016 | 09:33 AM
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Please refer to our OP to figure out our original question rather than saying use the search button. We have personally been a member of CL for 5 years, prior to becoming a vendor. We know how to use the search button, and we expect to be given a hard time when you're the new "kid" on the block. Please visit our website if you would like to see more of our work, thank you.

Just for reference, here's how our work would look if they weren't damaged by clear coating or whatever chemical based headlight restoration kits.

ISF with Painted Reflectors and Upgraded Projector Lens

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IS350 F Sport with Upgraded Projector Lens

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SC300/SC400

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much nicer pics, those sc lights look great too
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