biscuit141

Hi everyone. I am looking at a 2004 GS300 with 29K miles. They are asking $17,900ish but the car has been around awhile so I bet they would take much less, maybe $15-16k cash out the door. The car was a 3 year lease in New York and has been bouncing around dealers I guess since auction in November 2007. From my initial drive the car is clean and tight.

My question is I am looking for some stat sheets on the 300 vs the 400/430, much like Motor Trend lists at the end of their reviews. Horsepower, brakes, braking distance, 0-60 times etc., if you know what I mean. Anyone have a link to a post or other website? I know some forums have model spec breakdowns but I haven't found one here.

Since the fuel economy is so close, I would love a 400/430, but this clean 300 maybe too clean to pass up. I'm coming from a 2.8 Audi A6 which was slow, so I don't want to make the same mistake here with V6 vs V8. Thanks in advance.

Anthony

iTrader: (4)

29k damn thats nothing.
Id get a 430 if i had the chance..

Rippaflow

iTrader: (4)

a GS300 will perform like your current car. If you don't want that...either get a turbo or turbos for the 300 you buy (and with 29k that could be nice ) or go straight out for the 400 or 430. Do searches. This has been covered numerous times since 1998.

biscuit141

Well I doubt it is that bad. Does a GS300 do 0-60 in 11 seconds flat?

Yeah, I assumed it had, but I was hoping someone could help me out, maybe there was a good bookmarked thread or something.

4ntvings

iTrader: (6)

get the v8 and call it a day

Och

iTrader: (3)

The 6 cyl is not slug by any means, but the v8 is just much faster. Being that on the used market GS300 and GS430 go for almost the same price, and they get roughly the same fuel mileage, I don't see a reason to go with the 6 cyl. Plus with the v8 you get HIDs and usually wood steering wheels.

Oleg400

iTrader: (7)

the i6 seems plain when driving no excitment unless you T the thing then thats a nother thread, the GS4## just seems right, like that Merc ad 300hp is fast 400 is very fast and etc.. its just fast and you wont regret it. My 400 still scares me once in a while

chrispy

iTrader: (21)

GS300 0-60 is about 7.6. GS400/430 0-60 is about 5.7. With similar price in today's market and fuel efficiency, I don't see the point in getting the 300. If you don't want to make the same mistake, get the V8.

DarKnight

iTrader: (3)

The main thing is your plans for the car. If you don't mind having a relatively slow car for now then upgrading to a turbo then go for the 300. If you don't want to boost and just have decent power right out of the box then go for a 4XX.

jane12

http://www.performancecarnews.com/Fa...cess=ShowTable

ceelo

iTrader: (4)

Since your question is based primarily on performance and it seems like that is a concern for you then I would think that it is a no-brainer to go with a 400 or 430. There really isn't a comparison performance wise between the 300 and 400/430 out of the box.

With some money and the right modifications the 300 has great potential but if your not looking to go down that road I would look for a 400 or 430.

Debonair

Edmunds:

GS300
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 7.7 sec.
Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 118 ft.
Road Holding Index: .78 g
Base Number of Cylinders: 6
Base Engine Size: 3 liters
Base Engine Type: Inline 6
Horsepower: 220 hp
Max Horsepower: 5800 rpm
Torque: 220 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 3800 rpm
Drive Type: RWD Turning Circle: 37.1 ft.

GS400
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 5.9 sec.
Braking Distance (60-0 mph): 116 ft.
Road Holding Index: .84 g
Base Number of Cylinders: 8
Base Engine Size: 4 liters
Base Engine Type: V8
Horsepower: 300 hp
Max Horsepower: 6000 rpm
Torque: 310 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 4000 rpm
Drive Type: RWD Turning Circle: 37.1 ft.

GS430 + Full Test
0 - 60 (sec): 6.3
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 14.7@96.6
60 - 0 (ft): 117
Slalom (mph): 61.5

Base Number of Cylinders: 8 Base Engine Size: 4.3 liters
Base Engine Type: V8 Horsepower: 300 hp
Max Horsepower: 5600 rpm Torque: 325 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 3400 rpm Drive Type: RWD
Turning Circle: 37.1 ft.


***** EDMUNDS numbers, not mine.

sakataj

iTrader: (182)

v8 in my opinion but i guess cause i have one im biased

Anthony

iTrader: (4)

Why in edmunds numbers does it say the 400 is quicker than the 430?

Neo

iTrader: (3)

For daily driving around town, the 300 will not feel too much different than the 4x0 because of the gearing differences. If you decide to stomp on the pedal, then you will notice the power behind the v8.