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Rock-a-Lex 10-24-08 01:30 PM

Had to drive my boss' wife's '06 SC430 today...
 
This car is going back to the dealer in 3 weeks because the lease is up. I helped my boss with negotiating their new leased vehicle; a brand new left over 2008 GS350 AWD. I had to drive the SC430 today to the dealership to have a couple of things looked at that may need repair before they hand it in; i.e. scratches on the bumper.

Now I know this car is lighter than my GS400 and also has the 4.3L V8 in it so I just wanted to give it a little gas to find out. I could not believe it, I was extremely unimpressed...:eek2: my car is completely NIGHT and DAY MUCH MUCH faster. Eventhough I have a lot of mods I still couldn't believe how much of a difference there was. Their car only has about 20K miles on it too! It's still a baby, where my GS just hit 104K.

It just makes me realize how much I love my GS400; i'm gonna keep her around for a while. Just wanted to share with you guys; the end.:) :thumbup:

lexusscturbo 10-24-08 05:07 PM

The GS430 is reported to feel slower and the SC430 does have some weight to it but it pulls well on the freeway

Och 10-24-08 05:40 PM

Its heavier and slower than GS430, which in turn is slower than GS400. However it does have 6 speed transmission and extra torque, so it should have more effortless pull at higher speeds.

chuckb 10-25-08 07:17 AM

you're just not used to drive by wire.
also, car's get faster as they loosen up with miles. I think my 430 feels quicker now at 47k miles than it did at 23k miles. if you look at long term tests in magazines, sometimes the cars are .2-.3 seconds faster in 1/4 mile after 30-40k miles.
I have heard that sc are a bit slower than gs430 too though.

Ay-nako 10-25-08 08:32 AM

yess siirr the SC's are heavier and slower!!

GS430V8 10-25-08 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by Ay-nako (Post 3950224)
yess siirr the SC's are heavier and slower!!

wow, never knew!

LEXUS_KID 10-25-08 09:08 AM

GS 4 all day over an SC430 :D

sakataj 10-27-08 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by LEXUS_KID (Post 3950269)
GS 4 all day over an SC430 :D

but also gs430 over gs400 all day :D

Rock-a-Lex 10-27-08 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by sakataj (Post 3955052)
but also gs430 over gs400 all day :D

...lol, not for me. I like my e-shift V8. Also, the 400 is a tad quicker off the line if you search and no real difference on the highway at all.:p Also, the GS430 unfortunately sometimes (or most of the time) has issues with some mods like the PI TC; I believe the CEL comes on but there are some (such as Mo from SRT) that can supposedly bypass this.

Either ride is nice though!

sakataj 10-27-08 03:00 PM

dang i thought only the gs300 ever had the option of the e-shift (this was the steering wheel mounted manual shift correct?)

chuckb 10-28-08 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by Rock-a-Lex (Post 3955499)
... Also, the 400 is a tad quicker off the line if you search and no real difference on the highway at all.:!

wrong. you just have to know how to drive a 430. and remember, the 430 has more torque and a bigger engine.:)

theanimala 10-28-08 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by sakataj (Post 3955859)
dang i thought only the gs300 ever had the option of the e-shift (this was the steering wheel mounted manual shift correct?)

E-Shift was ONLY available on the GS400 (not the GS300), until 2001 when the GS430 replaced the GS400. They GS430 lost e-shift and the GS300 got it at that point. I loved it in my GS400 and used it all the time.

Rock-a-Lex 10-28-08 07:55 AM


Originally Posted by chuckb (Post 3957952)
wrong. you just have to know how to drive a 430. and remember, the 430 has more torque and a bigger engine.:)

...hmm, I beg to differ since I have read countless comparison tests on CL between the GS400 and GS430. I believe that 1SICKLEX has done one of the several comparison tests as well. I think in his test it was noted that the GS430 tranny was smoother than the GS400 and that this could be one of the reasons why it is a tad slower in acceleration. Sorry...maybe we can agree to disagree.:sad:;)

Oh, and .3L and 15-20 torque advantage to the crank of the GS430 is not really a big deal since they are both evenly matched machines. Perhaps Lexus upped the 4.0L to the 4.3L mainly for better fuel mileage; everyone knows that the GS400 is VERY bad on gas.:cry:

One last thing, have you ever driven a GS400? 'cause I have driven a GS430 before and they both felt pretty much the same with the GS400 feeling a little more sporty. On an automatic how can you drive better than someone else??? Let's say that both cars do NOT have e-shift or tip-tronic...from a stop light don't you just hit the gas? The only other thing that I can see you doing is brake torquing. However, ANY car with similar performance as the other will have the advantage if they did this...

sakataj 10-28-08 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by chuckb (Post 3957952)
wrong. you just have to know how to drive a 430. and remember, the 430 has more torque and a bigger engine.:)

i have a gs430 but u :uh: are wrong on this one.......gs400 and gs430 have SAME motor but the 4.3L 3UZFE 430 has a different bore/stroke compared to the 4.0L 3UZFE if i can recall right! now as far as which one is quicker off the line or we, i dont know. i have never driven or been in a gs400

Rock-a-Lex 10-28-08 10:27 AM

...don't get me wrong I would take either one any day! Love everything about the second gen GS!!!


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