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All these years, various media outlets hyped up the likes of Nikola, Lucid, Rivian, Lordstown and others, and one by one each company falls to some major scandal out of nowhere.
EV's aren't going away anywhere, but I don't expect shady startup EV brands to have much appeal left to investors in the near future.
EV's aren't going away anywhere, but I don't expect shady startup EV brands to have much appeal left to investors in the near future.
No doubt ICE vehicles are more prone to fires, that’s a no brainer and there are a lot more too just based on the number of ICE cars out there. I think some are pointing out that when there is a fire in an EV car it’s much much more difficult to put out.
I wonder if the tanker that was carrying all those cars that sank would have the same fate if there were no EVs on board? I would assume that it would have suffered the same fate but who knows if they could have put it out.
I wonder if the tanker that was carrying all those cars that sank would have the same fate if there were no EVs on board? I would assume that it would have suffered the same fate but who knows if they could have put it out.
Self igniting lithium battery fires are a new phenomenon, and certainly a huge concern. It happens spontaneously, when the car is unattended, and these types of fires are impossible to put out.
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Originally Posted by Och
It was a diesel truck carrying that EV bomb, diesel fuel doesn't burn under normal conditions. 99% the fire was started by the EV.
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Either way, the cause of fire is not known, and the only evidence we have of the fire starting in the engine department of the truck is a tweet from Len Devanna - head of digital experience of Lucid. Obviously he's trying to deflect the blame from his EV bomb, lol.
It's a heavy duty diesel tow truck, there is literally nothing in it to burn except bits of interior and wiring. Highly unlikely for the fire to start at the trunk and burn with enough intensity to transfer to the trailer and ignite the Lucid. Most likely the fire started at the EV, and the intensity with which the lithium batteries burn they set the diesel tanks on fire as well.
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Originally Posted by Och
It's a heavy duty diesel tow truck, there is literally nothing in it to burn except bits of interior and wiring. Highly unlikely for the fire to start at the trunk and burn with enough intensity to transfer to the trailer and ignite the Lucid. Most likely the fire started at the EV, and the intensity with which the lithium batteries burn they set the diesel tanks on fire as well.
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Sigh, looks like I have to post this again.
Going to leave the giant text maybe some of you will get the message this time.
Government data show gasoline vehicles are up to 100x more prone to fires than EVs
Going to leave the giant text maybe some of you will get the message this time.
I wouldn't consider any website that's called "Electrek" credible for giving a fair spin on ICE vs EV.
We don't think twice about charging our phones, cameras, etc. Why would we? For most of us we don't think about it. You're not going to think about a fire risk when you charge your phone. The problem is the size of the EV battery. When you have a battery that weighs half a ton or more and it is designed to re-charge relatively quickly considering the massive weight, combined with how new the tech is, combined with the horror stories we've heard about these catching fire and destroying everything in its path with nothing you can do about it, yes, some of us have a real issue with these things.
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It's a heavy duty diesel tow truck, there is literally nothing in it to burn except bits of interior and wiring. Highly unlikely for the fire to start at the trunk and burn with enough intensity to transfer to the trailer and ignite the Lucid. Most likely the fire started at the EV, and the intensity with which the lithium batteries burn they set the diesel tanks on fire as well.
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The government hates fossil fuels. You don't think they are going to paint ICE vehicles in a bad light?
I wouldn't consider any website that's called "Electrek" credible for giving a fair spin on ICE vs EV.
We don't think twice about charging our phones, cameras, etc. Why would we? For most of us we don't think about it. You're not going to think about a fire risk when you charge your phone. The problem is the size of the EV battery. When you have a battery that weighs half a ton or more and it is designed to re-charge relatively quickly considering the massive weight, combined with how new the tech is, combined with the horror stories we've heard about these catching fire and destroying everything in its path with nothing you can do about it, yes, some of us have a real issue with these things.
I wouldn't consider any website that's called "Electrek" credible for giving a fair spin on ICE vs EV.
We don't think twice about charging our phones, cameras, etc. Why would we? For most of us we don't think about it. You're not going to think about a fire risk when you charge your phone. The problem is the size of the EV battery. When you have a battery that weighs half a ton or more and it is designed to re-charge relatively quickly considering the massive weight, combined with how new the tech is, combined with the horror stories we've heard about these catching fire and destroying everything in its path with nothing you can do about it, yes, some of us have a real issue with these things.
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Investigators can say what they want. There is an agenda to eliminate all ICE in this country. Any chance at ******* ICE vehicles and saying how unsafe they are, they will take it.
In other words, they can say it was the truck but I'm leaning more to the EV. They don't have all the kinks worked out in their cars. Understandable, since they are new to building cars.
In other words, they can say it was the truck but I'm leaning more to the EV. They don't have all the kinks worked out in their cars. Understandable, since they are new to building cars.