Originally Posted by swajames (Post 11450935)

It is a recall, because it's been made as part of a NHTSA safety defect determination..

Originally Posted by patgilm (Post 11451188)

I see no reason to spend $12k-15k for FSD. I’ve read enough on the Tesla forums not to waste my money for a half baked feature only to be a test car dummy for them. Secondly I also noticed this part of the article:

“Owners must obtain a high driver-safety score, as determined by Tesla software that monitors their driving habits, and maintain it to get FSD Beta access.”

Based on those parameters there is zero chance I would actually qualify to get the Beta version.

With that being said, Autopilot is good enough for me and although it has many faults it’s still pretty darn good and steers relatively well. I think it steers much better than my BMW but overall isn’t as good as my BMW. Also, the X7 is getting a new feature that allows hands free up to 85mph where it was previously limited to 40mph I wonder how much better the BMW will be.

Originally Posted by patgilm (Post 11451188)

I see no reason to spend $12k-15k for FSD. I’ve read enough on the Tesla forums not to waste my money for a half baked feature only to be a test car dummy for them. Secondly I also noticed this part of the article:

“Owners must obtain a high driver-safety score, as determined by Tesla software that monitors their driving habits, and maintain it to get FSD Beta access.”

Based on those parameters there is zero chance I would actually qualify to get the Beta version.

With that being said, Autopilot is good enough for me and although it has many faults it’s still pretty darn good and steers relatively well. I think it steers much better than my BMW but overall isn’t as good as my BMW. Also, the X7 is getting a new feature that allows hands free up to 85mph where it was previously limited to 40mph I wonder how much better the BMW will be.

Originally Posted by Allen K (Post 11451285)

Safety score requirement has been lifted since the wider release

Originally Posted by rominl (Post 11451292)

yeah but that requirement in the beginning should have been a huge alarm to people. if fsd works, there shouldn't be such requirement

Originally Posted by rominl (Post 11451292)

yeah but that requirement in the beginning should have been a huge alarm to people. if fsd works, there shouldn't be such requirement

Originally Posted by AMIRZA786 (Post 11450346)

This one's for you @ST430

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...52c55d7b3b.jpg
Tesla is preparing to launch its new Autopilot hardware 4.0 upgrade, according to a filing with European regulators.

The automaker is expected to announce a new Autopilot/Self-Driving hardware suite, which has been referred to as Hardware 4.0 (HW4), any day now.

There have been quite a few indications that some major changes are coming. For example, after famously removing radar sensors from its hardware suite, we learned in December that Tesla is planning to add one as soon as this month.

Additionally, we also reported on a Tesla Model 3 prototype that potentially featured a new Autopilot/Full Self-Driving hardware suite.

A report coming out of China also showed that Tesla applied with regulators for some modifications to its vehicles, including new Autopilot cameras.

Now Tesla has done the same in Europe where it files for changes to its vehicles with regulators in the Netherlands.

The Tesla forum TFF has a neat tracker to follow all the changes that the automaker applies for with the regulator, and it revealed a new application for Model S and Model X with a significant list of changes:

• Introduction of Generation 4 complex vehicle control system (Autopilot)
• Introduction of new car computer and GNSS antenna
• Introduction of Gen3 inverters to ######m1# drive units
• Change to Automatic Dipped and Main Beam Sensor
• Unification of Model X brake system application
• Introduction of new stay arm for Model X interior rear-view mirror
• Update to manufacturer’s engine code
• Update to vehicle’s rear badging
• Update to vehicle’s maximum vehicle speed

It confirms that Tesla is about to release the new Autopilot hardware 4.0, and it is going to include a new computer.

With Tesla now applying with regulators, it is fair to expect the launch of the new hardware to be imminent.

CEO Elon Musk recently commented on the introduction of Hardware 4.0, and while he didn’t release any details about the upgrade or its timing, he did confirm that Tesla doesn’t plan to offer retrofits for older models.

Interestingly, more changes are being introduced at the same time, including a new drive inverter, though more details are not available.

Also, this is the new rear badging for those who are curious:

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...020c010196.jpg


The new top speed appears to be linked to the Plaid models, which have yet to deliver on Tesla’s original top speed promises when first announcing its new top-of-the-line models.

The automaker has been software limiting the top speed until it can release its carbon ceramic brake kit to improve braking performance and make that insane top speed of 322 km/h (200 mph) safer.

As we previously reported, a Tesla Model S Plaid owner already managed to beat that top speed by unlocking the speed limiter in Tesla’s software.

https://electrek.co/2023/02/13/tesla...e-4-0-upgrade/

Originally Posted by AMIRZA786 (Post 11451302)

It actually works pretty well for a beta. I know several people who have it. They use it on trips and sometimes in stop and go traffic. Tesla has been collecting data for years

Originally Posted by patgilm (Post 11451372)

Had a heating/cooling system fault in my Tesla so I have to take it in for service today. I haven’t had the best luck with Tesla service so wish me luck!

Originally Posted by signdetres (Post 11451411)

Oh no! Hope it goes well! We had a service appointment recently and it went really well for us. I received better treatment and service than I ever have at Lexus or elsewhere. We were so impressed. And the fact that it’s all done through the app. No other OEMs can compare with that aspect of Tesla service.

Originally Posted by patgilm (Post 11451417)

So far so good, at least the service person was nice and my car was actually pulled in for service relatively quickly. The only thing I don’t like is that he said it’s a big job and can be 4-6 hours and I got $100 of rideshare credits but that only covers to and from the service center since it is $50 each way so I am basically waiting here and hopefully it will be done sooner. If it was gong to be that long I would have hoped for a loaner.

Service center kind of sucks since it’s it one room and there are no private rooms to do work call and I have about 3 of them today so that will be kind of weird. My Lexus and BMW dealer had private rooms.

Originally Posted by signdetres (Post 11451422)

Just hop in a Model S or X in the showroom and make that your private office :D

Originally Posted by patgilm (Post 11451372)

Had a heating/cooling system fault in my Tesla so I have to take it in for service today. I haven’t had the best luck with Tesla service so wish me luck!