Well, it is egg shaped a little bit.Lol
Just saying. Haha

looks very stylish to me.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...13d333589.jpeg

i know this is the 'mainstream' but to me this is seriously ugly. :D

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...eaea6540e.jpeg

I don't mind the RAV. I just can't stand the "pseudo tough" vibe from the ugly plastic wheel arches 👎

Differences between the pre-refresh and updated Model Y

It's a visual trick to make you think the wheel gaps are bigger than they actually are. lol

Yes, I have driven several EVs....a Tesla Model 3, a Chevy Bolt, and a Mach-E Mustang, among others. In terms of build quality and design, I liked the Chevy Bolt the best...and it was also reasonably-priced.

The thing that struck me the most about the Tesla Model 3 (besides the IMO ridiculous dash) was the immense torque from its electric motor. I made the statement when I reviewed it and wrote it up here in Car Chat (and still feel that way), that this was clearly not a car for aggressive, careless, inexperienced or unattentive drivers. If you are not very careful with that go-pedal, especially in dense traffic, it could get you in trouble (or cause an accident) VERY quickly....within a couple of seconds. :eek2:

I thought the Mach-E Mustang was grossly overpriced for what you got, and had some bad design-features, which I went into in my write-up/review, so I won't re-hash them here.

If I recall, you drove the Model 3 sometime ago. Here's my suggestion...drive the updated new refresh Model Y and give us your thoughts. I convinced my coworker last year who is a die hard motor head, and owner of two Porsche's to test drive the new Model 3, and a month later he bought one. I'm not saying you are going to like them, maybe you'll hate it, but at least now you can answer the very question you asked in the title of this thread

I think Model Y is a nice looking car that does most things quite well, hence the top sales; sure there are a number of deficiencies.

MM, definitely should schedule a test drive to add some reality / first hand experience to your review!

I don't expect you to like it, however, in either the new or older trim. IMO there are too many operational departures from a 'traditional' vehicle for you get comfortable with the Tesla from the big screen driving nearly everything, turn indicator changes, etc. (In fairness those things also one of the reasons I didn't buy a Tesla, so it's not just you). You're more of a flip-phone guy and this is a smartphone car.

Updated Y keeps the turn signal so it'll get a pass on that critique :D

The Y offers an incredible value for what you get

lol. he has a mac, and i think, an iphone. :peep:

but yes, mmarshall, you can't (or shouldn't) base your opinion of either the new 3 or Y on your drive of a 3 ages ago.

Marshall could be like the "Woz?" Likes apple UI, dislikes Tesla UI

"Coming from Apple, the user interface, the way you deal with technology, is the most important thing in the world to me,"

Wozniak said, "And Tesla is the worst in the world at that."

"The policeman had never seen this yoke steering wheel,"

Wozniak said. "When you're already turning, you can't find the buttons for the turn signal."

"It's kind of a new Tesla, with new software - there's no button for the glove box," he explained. "You have to go and search in menus until you stumble into finding it - it's horrible."





Steve Wozniak was an early Tesla fan - now he calls its design a 'miserable' experience.
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/10379...nce/index.html

I own two Tesla's, and the interface is just as good as any iPhone or Mac, IMO. Even my technophobe wife has no issues with Tesla's interface, which is the best I've ever used in any car, IMO. I have the new Model 3 with button turn signals, extremely easy to use

I'll never get on the button turn signal team :D Wouldn't disqualify a car for me, but would drag it down for sure

There's nothing not to get :D. It works, I now can signal without looking, just by feel. Would I prefer if it came with a stalk? Yes for sure, but I would buy it either way. I'm not team button or team stalk, I just adapted to the situation