That's not something really on the table, and a pretty big leap of logic from what we're discussing with tariffs.

Tesla was one of the first, maybe the first, western company that did not have to partner with a Chinese company to make cars in China. Their Shanghai factory is only Tesla owned.

 

Still, I am not sure why I am uneasy about the entire situation.
Perhaps be cause we must have a "level" playing field?

In other words, if foreign motor vehicles must be assembled in China to be exempt from Chinese import duty, then foreign motor vehicles must be assembled within any country to be exempt from that country's import duty!

 

I see this is a possible (maybe even probable) first step in stopping and reversing the recent excessive-globalization of the auto industry, and bringing back American auto-manufacturing jobs that were shifted to China and other countries years ago. Perhaps we may (?) also need tariffs on Mexican-made vehicles, but that is a subject for another thread, not this one.

 

Why, do you think new vehicles aren't expensive enough? The UAW has been killing locally produced affordable vehicles one at a time.

 

Which is one reason I voted against collective bargaining when I cast my TSLA proxy vote. As much as I am for workers rights, unions make manufacturing cars in the US more expensive, forcing companies to manufacture in Mexico and China

 

do say what were the jobs shifted to China in Car manufacturing?

Also, ever heard of NAFTA?

 

What is the point of doing NA free trade, when China won't do free trade?
To be fair, free trade must be genuinely free.

 

​​​​​​The downsides to protectionism is widely known

* Higher prices for consumers due to less competition

* Reduced innovation due to less pressure to compete

* Can trigger trade wars with retaliatory tariffs

 

China has nothing to do with NAFTA....that is a separate issue. And we found out, some time ago, that NAFTA actually created more problems for us than it solved. That's all I'll say about it, because we can't get into politics here.

 

I'm confused. If we can't have free trade with every country, we shouldn't have it with any country? Why should China get to determine US trade policy with Canada and Mexico?

 

uaw will become completely irrelevant in the next few years as robots take over all physical jobs. the robots will work 24hrs a day, never complain, for about $5/hr.

 

I'm half way thru the video and they make some good points

However, I feel the direction things are going will be doom for humanity.

I have been heavily involved in factory automation for many years.

"Robot" is a loose word.

We already have rapid acceleration of robots for the last twenty years if a robot can be any machine that picks, places, sorts, stamps, mixes, etc, etc all intelligently controlled without human intervention.

The context of "robot" in this video is more intelligent machines that can replace jobs that machines and current robots can't currently do and god help us.

He makes the analogy of horses being replaced by cars.

Guess what, in the future you will be the horse that's no longer needed. Lol

It's NOT a good thing. Lol

Pretty much doom for mankind.

 

You have a pretty poor opinion of mankind, if you think it can't adapt to the change. We've been doing that since the beginning of time.

 

It's my love for humanity that I fear what's coming.

I've watched the progression up close and can see where it is going.

The only horses left are pets.

Unless you're Amish. Haha

Ps, tariff fights are just a stop gap

 

We should only free trade with a country that equally free trades in mutual reciprocation.
Eg US can free trade with Mexico and Canada.
However, when China imposes tariffs on imported US automobiles, then the US should equally impose tariffs on Chinese made automobiles.