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SW17LS Jan 13, 2024 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by bitkahuna (Post 11649274)
because you don't always need to wake up with a full (or 80% or whatever) charge, and you may not be driving far.

Which I also said, but my question still stands, why would I want to rent one? How does that improve my trip?

couple of 15 minute trips to a super charger was all i needed. cake. :dance2:
Assuming you are somewhere near a Supercharger. Again though, on my vacation why do I want to go find a supercharger? For instance my trip to Orlando, I'm going to be driving from a hotel to theme parks etc...why do I want to go find a Supercharger? The whole reason I rent a car is to save time and hassle.

I just don't see why renting an EV on a vacation makes sense. Theres the novelty of trying out an EV fine, but from a rental car as transportation I don't see how its better than renting an ICE car. Costwise, you have to make sure to charge it on the way to the airport or they charge you, where if I'm not driving enough to need to charge it I wouldn't use $35 in gas in something comparable to a Model 3 in size.

swajames Jan 13, 2024 09:12 AM

If you were to rent a Tesla from Hertz here at least you only have to return the vehicle with the same charge you left with or you can return at any level for a $35 fee. Gas out here is $4.50 to $5 or so depending upon grade so the ICE equivalent of a prepaid tank of gas and return at any level would be way more expensive. Plus there are no shortage of superchargers if you wanted to charge up before return.

And count me as another who would be much more comfortable buying an ex-rental EV than an ex-rental ICE car.

And as aside, don't underestimate the number of (usually) free destination chargers. There are thousands of them. You're often able to charge for free at your hotel. So you're often able to start each day at 100%.

SW17LS Jan 13, 2024 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by swajames (Post 11649282)
If you were to rent a Tesla from Hertz here at least you only have to return the vehicle with the same charge you left with or you can return at any level for a $35 fee. Gas out here is $4.50 to $5 or so depending upon grade so the ICE equivalent of a prepaid tank of gas and return at any level would be way more expensive. Plus there are no shortage of superchargers if you wanted to charge up before return.

And count me as another who would be much more comfortable buying an ex-rental EV than an ex-rental ICE car.

So you're saying my rental Tesla may not be given to me fully charged? I want that even less now lol

swajames Jan 13, 2024 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11649284)
So you're saying my rental Tesla may not be given to me fully charged? I want that even less now lol

Well rental cars are often supplied less than full, even premium rental companies. I'm top tier at a fair few of them.

Blaze876 Jan 13, 2024 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11649232)
I wouldn't do that (thats a pretty jerky thing to do IMO) but I'm sure most people who rent it do

Don't waste your money lol. The big rental agencies, some locations only have 87 or 89. Never seen any sites I've been that have premium.

Margate330 Jan 13, 2024 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Blaze876 (Post 11649292)
Don't waste your money lol. The big rental agencies, some locations only have 87 or 89. Never seen any sites I've been that have premium.

I wouldn't bother either.

Especially now that I know rental agencies don't do it either.

Why should they, it's a rental.

SW17LS Jan 13, 2024 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by swajames (Post 11649286)
Well rental cars are often supplied less than full, even premium rental companies. I'm top tier at a fair few of them.

Almost every rental car I have rented has a full tank of gas, or at least close. I can also refuel an ICE rental car anywhere in 4 minutes I don’t have to find a charger somewhere and wait.


Originally Posted by Blaze876 (Post 11649292)
Don't waste your money lol. The big rental agencies, some locations only have 87 or 89. Never seen any sites I've been that have premium.

I still would use the kind of gas it requires.

Margate330 Jan 13, 2024 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11649304)
Almost every rental car I have rented has a full tank of gas, or at least close. I can also refuel an ICE rental car anywhere in 4 minutes I don’t have to find a charger somewhere and wait.



I still would use the kind of gas it requires.

That's cool but unless it's in the rental agreement I don't see how anyone has an obligation to do that. 🤔

SW17LS Jan 13, 2024 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Margate330 (Post 11649305)
That's cool but unless it's in the rental agreement I don't see how anyone has an obligation to do that. 🤔

I don’t need to be contractually obligated to treat property belonging to others properly :dunno:

Margate330 Jan 13, 2024 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11649307)
I don’t need to be contractually obligated to treat property belonging to others properly :dunno:

Thank you for your thoughts @SW17LS ,

I'll go ahead and start a new thread on this subject just for fun and make a poll on it.


703 Jan 13, 2024 10:26 AM

Such a hassle putting the fire out. I reckon the fire department should send the bill to the manufacturer.


SW17LS Jan 13, 2024 10:44 AM

I watched that video too.

EVs are not the only things that create unusual fire hazards, the tools and methods used to fight fires have to evolve with the times.

Aegean Jan 13, 2024 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by 703 (Post 11649333)
Such a hassle putting the fire out. I reckon the fire department should send the bill to the manufacturer.

https://youtu.be/itGeAq9rBeY?si=0AUV6_QUDn6rNoHo

I guess when someone installs an EVSE to charge electric vehicles in a garage, he would probably need to install:
  • Garage smoke detector
  • Garage EVSE disconnect switch (if electrical panel access would be inaccessible)
  • Garage monitoring camera with smartphone app
  • Garage fire extinguisher
  • A top rated home insurance

SW17LS Jan 13, 2024 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Aegean (Post 11649382)
I guess when someone installs an EVSE to charge electric vehicles in a garage, he would probably need to install:
  • Garage smoke detector
  • Garage EVSE disconnect switch (if electrical panel access would be inaccessible)
  • Garage monitoring camera with smartphone app
  • Garage fire extinguisher
  • A top rated home insurance

Would you like me to post all the stories of ICE cars catching fire in garages? This happens...

AJT123 Jan 13, 2024 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11649085)
Actually I would buy a rental EV before I would buy a rental ICE. Wear and tear is less damaging.

Fair, but they say that one of the problems is the battery hardware gets scraped/hit/whatever because it's so low.

And nobody gives a crap about a rental car. Though I do miss that F-150 haha.


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