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AJT123 Jan 12, 2024 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11648709)
Theres a thread about this. Doesn’t surprise me, why would you want to rent an EV when you can’t easily charge it overnight?

I rarrrrrrely rent cars but yeah. That’s non-sensical.

Hameed Jan 12, 2024 11:15 AM

Just stumbled across this in my news feed. No idea how legit it is.

EU investigators to inspect China's BYD, Geely and SAIC in EV probe
https://www.reuters.com/business/aut...ce-2024-01-12/

The part that caught my attention however was this

China is estimated to have overtaken Japan as the world's largest auto exporter last year, shipping 5.26 million vehicles valued at about $102 billion, a Chinese auto association said this week.
Is this fact?

LeX2K Jan 12, 2024 12:24 PM

I've read that in several places appears to be true China has taken the export crown from Japan.

Funny how history repeats at one time Japan was accused of all manner of anti-competitive practices.

BayeauxLex Jan 12, 2024 01:11 PM


jrmckinley Jan 12, 2024 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11648709)
Theres a thread about this. Doesn’t surprise me, why would you want to rent an EV when you can’t easily charge it overnight?

Yeah, if your route or where you're staying doesn't have super chargers nearby it would make the rental a stressful experience. I've rented a Tesla 3 or 4 times on work trips to Atlanta, but there are plenty of charging options around the city. I only need to charge before heading back to the airport as I'm typically just doing 20-40 miles/day and only there for 2 or maybe 3 days.

AJT123 Jan 12, 2024 04:34 PM

They are fools to have that policy (bring back fully charged), that is 10000% idiocy on them.

That would definitely stop me from renting an EV, and I briefly considered doing so when we went out to CA.

Aegean Jan 12, 2024 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by AJT123 (Post 11648701)
I heard Hertz is selling their EVs?

Again don’t shoot the messenger.

They are selling mostly their Tesla ifor financial reasons. Largest car ownership cost include fuel which rental companies do not care, interest which is the same in similar priced vehicles, insurance which is 1.5 times for Tesla but they knew that when they made the investment but where their lost a lot of money is the extremely expensive depreciation. They lost tens of thousand dollars per Tesla and they really did not expect that. It is just a financial decision.

AJT123 Jan 12, 2024 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by Aegean (Post 11649036)
. They lost tens of thousand dollars per Tesla and they really did not expect that. .

I did.

Who is gonna buy a used rental EV?

I wouldn’t touch a rental ICE Lexus let alone a Tesla that you know has been ragged out by people who have never experienced one, etc.

SW17LS Jan 12, 2024 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by AJT123 (Post 11649019)
They are fools to have that policy (bring back fully charged), that is 10000% idiocy on them.

That would definitely stop me from renting an EV, and I briefly considered doing so when we went out to CA.

They only charge you $20 I think if it’s not charged. The other issue with them for rental fleets is you can’t turn them right around because they need to charge.


Originally Posted by AJT123 (Post 11649075)
I did.

Who is gonna buy a used rental EV?

I wouldn’t touch a rental ICE Lexus let alone a Tesla that you know has been ragged out by people who have never experienced one, etc.

Actually I would buy a rental EV before I would buy a rental ICE. Wear and tear is less damaging.

BayeauxLex Jan 12, 2024 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by AJT123 (Post 11649075)
I did.

Who is gonna buy a used rental EV?

I wouldn’t touch a rental ICE Lexus let alone a Tesla that you know has been ragged out by people who have never experienced one, etc.


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11649085)
They only charge you $20 I think if it’s not charged. The other issue with them for rental fleets is you can’t turn them right around because they need to charge.



Actually I would buy a rental EV before I would buy a rental ICE. Wear and tear is less damaging.

The rental Audi Q5 I put 2,900 miles on, called for premium fuel. I put 87 in it the entire time I had it :dunno:

Blaze876 Jan 12, 2024 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by Aegean (Post 11649036)
They are selling mostly their Tesla ifor financial reasons. Largest car ownership cost include fuel which rental companies do not care, interest which is the same in similar priced vehicles, insurance which is 1.5 times for Tesla but they knew that when they made the investment but where their lost a lot of money is the extremely expensive depreciation. They lost tens of thousand dollars per Tesla and they really did not expect that. It is just a financial decision.

I don't know about small rental agencies but the big ones are self insured.

Aegean Jan 13, 2024 05:44 AM


Originally Posted by BayeauxLex (Post 11649093)
The rental Audi Q5 I put 2,900 miles on, called for premium fuel. I put 87 in it the entire time I had it :dunno:

Now you reminded me my sister’s first car. She leased for 36 months a Nissan Maxima, put 50000 miles and returned it without ever changing the oil.

Margate330 Jan 13, 2024 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Aegean (Post 11649176)
Now you reminded me my sister’s first car. She leased for 36 months a Nissan Maxima, put 50000 miles and returned it without ever changing the oil.

I feel sorry for the next owner of that car. Lol

People who are that clueless NEED an EV so they are not a danger to themselves or others. Haha

SW17LS Jan 13, 2024 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by BayeauxLex (Post 11649093)
The rental Audi Q5 I put 2,900 miles on, called for premium fuel. I put 87 in it the entire time I had it :dunno:

I wouldn't do that (thats a pretty jerky thing to do IMO) but I'm sure most people who rent it do

bitkahuna Jan 13, 2024 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11648709)
why would you want to rent an EV when you can’t easily charge it overnight?

because you don't always need to wake up with a full (or 80% or whatever) charge, and you may not be driving far.


Originally Posted by jrmckinley (Post 11648983)
Yeah, if your route or where you're staying doesn't have super chargers nearby it would make the rental a stressful experience. I've rented a Tesla 3 or 4 times on work trips to Atlanta, but there are plenty of charging options around the city. I only need to charge before heading back to the airport as I'm typically just doing 20-40 miles/day and only there for 2 or maybe 3 days.

exactly, my 6 day trip with a model 3 rental was fine without charging on site. couple of 15 minute trips to a super charger was all i needed. cake. :dance2:


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