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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 05:16 PM
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Unfortunately I don’t think I’m getting the tax credit because my PHEV was assembled in Japan

I did however consider a MY before purchasing my PHEV. I pretty much drive my PHEV like an EV. It only sees gas on road trips.
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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 05:19 PM
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Yeah, I don't buy it. People are not making the huge switch to an EV and installing chargers etc simply to get a $7,500 tax credit.
agree to disagree man but again I am in a dealership everyday. Also getting a charger installed is very easy and there are chargers available in our area. I don’t see it as a huge switch. There are some people that 100% buy a car based on a deal. They arent “car” people, just someone looking for what they perceive is a good or great deal.
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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BayeauxLex
That was a factor for my friend who has a 23 MYLR.

tbh, I don’t know if he’s even saving money. Higher insurance premium, higher electricity bill, the cost for the charger plus install
Do you know what I'm saving? If you factor in cost of electricity, Insurance premiums, registration etc, I'm saving about $800 a month, just in gas savings for four cars. Once you factor in maint, that's at least another $500 a year. The charging costs for each of our EV's is roughly about $50 a month per car. The cost of maint is $0. My initial spend was $500 for a Level 2 charger, and another $500 to hire an electrician to bring in a 240v circuit. I've already long recouped those costs.

There is absolutely no arguing that EV's are way cheaper to own over 3 to 5 years compared to a non EV's

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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by B Dot
agree to disagree man but again I am in a dealership everyday. Also getting a charger installed is very easy and there are chargers available in our area. I don’t see it as a huge switch. There are some people that 100% buy a car based on a deal. They arent “car” people, just someone looking for what they perceive is a good or great deal.
It’s easy to do but it’s not cheap. The total cost for most people is at least $2,000. A level 2 charger requires a dedicated circuit, which not everybody will have available to them. If they don’t it will require the installation of a sub panel or an upgrade the the house’s electrical service.

When I finished my basement I had my garage wired for two level 2 chargers since I had to add a subpanel anyways. Even with 200 amp service I would have had to have a subpanel installed to install the breakers for the charger so total cost to add one to my house would have been $3,500-$4,000, I had to do the bulk of that anyway to wire the basement.

Its a HUGE switch, anybody who goes EV just because of a tax credit is not very smart.
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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
They're not buying an EV for the tax credit though. It may put them over the edge, but if they didn't have a desire to try an EV in the first place it would not make them do it.
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I disagree. When people come in and ask “what do you have that qualifies for $7500 tax credit” seems like they would buy a gas car if it qualified lol. Just had a guy switch from a new X5 50e to a preowned plugin XC90 then to a preowned E-Tron all based off him wanting to buy something with a tax credit.
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Yeah, I don't buy it. People are not making the huge switch to an EV and installing chargers etc simply to get a $7,500 tax credit.
never underestimate financially irrational motivations. like someone driving a high end luxury car to wait in line at costco to save money on gas.
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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
never underestimate financially irrational motivations. like someone driving a high end luxury car to wait in line at costco to save money on gas.
You mean like this:






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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by bitkahuna
never underestimate financially irrational motivations. like someone driving a high end luxury car to wait in line at costco to save money on gas.
I agree with you. The $7,500 is one crucial factor I go for the MYP. I would likely go for the RX350h if it weren't for the tax credit. The price drop + $7,500 tax credit makes it very attractive, especially since I have been itching to try EV.



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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 08:25 PM
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I agree with you. The $7,500 is one crucial factor I go for the MYP. I would likely go for the RX350h if it weren't for the tax credit. The price drop + $7,500 tax credit makes it very attractive, especially since I have been itching to try EV.
The last sentence is the most important.
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Old Sep 6, 2023 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The last sentence is the most important.
Yes, I would not deny that since it all starts there. For most people, the first thing is always what we want/like. Then, evaluate if we can afford it or if it is good value, and make the most sense decision. For many Lexus owner, we also factor in reliability/quality and resale value. Something I choose to neglect and bear the risk.

If I have to do a breakdown on the weight of my decision on the MYP, it would be my itchiness for an EV (40%), Tesla's recent price drop (30%), & $7,500 tax credit (30%).
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