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AMIRZA786 Mar 7, 2024 02:49 PM

My brother in law just got back from test driving the Model X...and it's a hard NO. There are several reasons, but here are the two main ones


  • Removal of stalks
  • Falcon wing doors

First on removal of stalks. He had a hard time using the turn signals, and secondly it began to rain. He hit the windshield wiper button, and his only choice was Auto. He could not figure out how to manually adjust the speed. Not a good start.

On the Falcon wing doors, he said that first of all they are cool, but impractical. They open too slowly, are extremely heavy, and they block the side pillars because of the extra support they need. He also mentioned that his wife would never drive it.

Overall he thought it was a cool car and an attention getter, but it took him way too much time to figure it out, it doesn't deliver value for its price like the Model Y, and removal of the stalks was "the stupidest move ever". He has an appointment to test drive a Kia EV9

The sad part, I'm not getting my Tesla referral points 😢

GFerg Mar 7, 2024 02:53 PM

I know continuing off topic but yea, I was buying NVDA end of 2022 around 150. Still have ALL of my shares. I want $1000, then I'm shaving. My only regret is that I didn't YOLO it all into NVDA. :D I put waaayy more into the semiconductor ETF, SMH during that time as I didn't want all that risk in one company. Played it safe, but I'm not mad at SMH's return over this time period either.

bitkahuna Mar 7, 2024 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by LeX2K (Post 11682893)
It is a gut punch watching basically every other tech stock go to the moon and TSLA drift into the ditch.

that's because they're not really considered a tech company. i know, i know...

they can't make sell roof tiles.
they can't make sell semis.
they can't make sell many powerwalls.
their "full self driving" isn't.
their products are mostly for consumers, not business.
they're really the model 3/y company.
and they may become the cybertruck company too at some point, but that's probably a couple of years away.
that's just a reality check. nothing wrong with it, but it's hard to sustain giant p/e valuations.
they will need to have a bumper cybertruck quarter maybe, or a real fsd breakthrough to stair step again.
i do believe they will climb again at some point though. i didn't sell...

stocks like arm and nvidia are just positioned so well to meet the moment, with less capital needs, pretty much insatiable demand, in demand BY the big tech companies in a race, etc.
glad i have both of those too and the big techs for 'diversification'. :D

patgilm Mar 7, 2024 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by AMIRZA786 (Post 11683040)
My brother in law just got back from test driving the Model X...and it's a hard NO. There are several reasons, but here are the two main ones
  • Removal of stalks
  • Falcon wing doors

First on removal of stalks. He had a hard time using the turn signals, and secondly it began to rain. He hit the windshield wiper button, and his only choice was Auto. He could not figure out how to manually adjust the speed. Not a good start.

On the Falcon wing doors, he said that first of all they are cool, but impractical. They open too slowly, are extremely heavy, and they block the side pillars because of the extra support they need. He also mentioned that his wife would never drive it.

Overall he thought it was a cool car and an attention getter, but it took him way too much time to figure it out, it doesn't deliver value for its price like the Model Y, and removal of the stalks was "the stupidest move ever". He has an appointment to test drive a Kia EV9

The sad part, I'm not getting my Tesla referral points 😢

Like anything, you have to get used to having no stalks. All the gripes are just not getting used to it because it’s only a test drive. You know I don’t like the buttons for turn signals and I still make embarrassing blunders more the two years in with them but I wouldn’t say it is hard to use them, just not ideal/dumb. As for the windshield wipers, he just didn’t know how to use them, there are several different modes besides auto. The rear doors I do agree with him on.

AMIRZA786 Mar 7, 2024 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by patgilm (Post 11683246)
Like anything, you have to get used to having no stalks. All the gripes are just not getting used to it because it’s only a test drive. You know I don’t like the buttons for turn signals and I still make embarrassing blunders more the two years in with them but I wouldn’t say it is hard to use them, just not ideal/dumb. As for the windshield wipers, he just didn’t know how to use them, there are several different modes besides auto. The rear doors I do agree with him on.

I think one of the main reasons is my sister in law would refuse to drive it, this would mainly be her car. I've known her for 26 years, and I agree with him, if it's not easy to use or she runs into any issues, she just will simply refuse to drive it.

Another thing he mentioned is it's really hard to maneuver while trying to park it, and he said the blind spot due to the side pillars is pretty bad. His wife is not good at parking, and he thinks this would be a huge problem.

Last thing, he's an avid consumer reports reader (he still gets the hard copy version lol) and he told me he experienced all the issues they mentioned and tends to follow their recommendations, which was a recommendation to not buy a model X.

I can safely say he didn't like it, I think the EV 9 is more suited for my sister in law

SW17LS Mar 8, 2024 10:36 AM


Originally Posted by patgilm (Post 11683246)
Like anything, you have to get used to having no stalks. All the gripes are just not getting used to it because it’s only a test drive. You know I don’t like the buttons for turn signals and I still make embarrassing blunders more the two years in with them but I wouldn’t say it is hard to use them, just not ideal/dumb. As for the windshield wipers, he just didn’t know how to use them, there are several different modes besides auto. The rear doors I do agree with him on.

I really don't want to get used to using vital controls of my car, I'd rather they just operate in the typical most ergonomic way.

JeffKeryk Mar 8, 2024 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11683556)
I really don't want to get used to using vital controls of my car, I'd rather they just operate in the typical most ergonomic way.

When I test drove the Highland, the 1st time I was making a lane change I grabbed air. Laughed at myself. After that, the button was fine; in fact there is no need to take your hand off the steering wheel.
Piece of cake.

LeX2K Mar 8, 2024 02:47 PM

I'm still holding out for the return of 3 in the tree shifting want to operate my vehicle is the typical most ergonomic way.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...ef0b50fd10.png

Tesla stock continues its slide, NVDA finally had a significant sell off didn't quite make it to $1,000. Yet.

AMIRZA786 Mar 8, 2024 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by JeffKeryk (Post 11683748)
When I test drove the Highland, the 1st time I was making a lane change I grabbed air. Laughed at myself. After that, the button was fine; in fact there is no need to take your hand off the steering wheel.
Piece of cake.

The difference between the Highland and X is the Highland has clickable buttons with feedback while the X has haptic feedback. They do work on the Highland much better, but removal of the stalks still makes me question...why?

AMIRZA786 Mar 8, 2024 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by LeX2K (Post 11683753)
I'm still holding out for the return of 3 in the tree shifting want to operate my vehicle is the typical most ergonomic way.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...ef0b50fd10.png

Tesla stock continues its slide, NVDA finally had a significant sell off didn't quite make it to $1,000. Yet.

I want...no, I need one of those!

patgilm Mar 8, 2024 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11683556)
I really don't want to get used to using vital controls of my car, I'd rather they just operate in the typical most ergonomic way.

I don’t disagree and I’ve been a critic of the buttons since I’ve owned the car, I was just pointing out that it’s tough to say they are hard to use from a short test drive. You may not like them but they aren’t hard to use.


Originally Posted by AMIRZA786 (Post 11683754)
The difference between the Highland and X is the Highland has clickable buttons with feedback while the X has haptic feedback. They do work on the Highland much better, but removal of the stalks still makes me question...why?

I’ve heard the same about the Highland buttons. I find it interesting that the Model 3/Y get the good buttons on the steering wheel and the S/X get the crappy ones. I notice a difference in the scroll wheels on the S/X are not as good/easy to use vs. the 3/Y and now the turn signal buttons are better too.

Bob04 Mar 8, 2024 05:40 PM

Some people just struggle with change. LOL

SW17LS Mar 8, 2024 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by JeffKeryk (Post 11683748)
When I test drove the Highland, the 1st time I was making a lane change I grabbed air. Laughed at myself. After that, the button was fine; in fact there is no need to take your hand off the steering wheel.
Piece of cake.

I don't take my hand off the wheel using a stalk either. I'll take the stalk.


Originally Posted by Bob04 (Post 11683865)
Some people just struggle with change. LOL

Hey pot, its the kettle lol

Bob04 Mar 8, 2024 06:23 PM

Old people and their stalks.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.clu...0b11629cc7.gif

SW17LS Mar 8, 2024 06:26 PM

Says the guy who swears he can't handle plugging a car in when he parks it lol. Nice troll attempt, you want stalks too.


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