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AMIRZA786 Mar 6, 2024 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by LeX2K (Post 11682552)
Gates is a brilliant business man but extremely ruthless. It was pure genius on his part to license out Windows, IBM was so dumb they should have demanded a license from Microsoft to install on IBM hardware. Back then IBM had all the clout and they blew it. Gates has mastered the act of being the, aw shucks I'm just a lowly guy doing my best and making the world a better place. The guy is snake.

Of course, but don't tell me at times Microsoft's issues didn't annoy you to the point of pure rage. I will say, Microsoft's dev tools are excellent hate to admit it but I grew to love Visual Studio. I made some incredibly complex and powerful applications, looking back at them now I wonder how I did it.

We can't talk about it here, but his wife left him for shall we say Bill's questionable acts.

Back to Tesla I have a feeling the stock is going to take an epic beating in the next few months.

The issues were definitely annoying, but many of the issues were related to having to run on multiple vendor hardware. Some of the worst issues were related to drivers. On the server side, Windows Server from NT on were pretty solid due to OEM versions built for specific hardware and well written Hardware Abstraction Layers (HAL). Today we run over 160 laptops running Windows 10/11 and over 15 servers with almost no issues.

I can definitely foresee TSLA taking a beating for some time. I recently picked up about a little over $5k of TSLA at $190, my wife is pissed. I keep telling her that you have to sit on it for awhile, but she's not very patient

LeX2K Mar 6, 2024 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by AMIRZA786 (Post 11682554)
The issues were definitely annoying, but many of the issues were related to having to run on multiple vendor hardware. Some of the worst issues were related to drivers. On the server side, Windows Server from NT on were pretty solid due to OEM versions built for specific hardware and well written Hardware Abstraction Layers (HAL). Today we run over 160 laptops running Windows 10/11 and over 15 servers with almost no issues.

Go back a few versions, Windows was trash. At one time I was running the beta of Windows 2000 because I couldn't take the blue screens anymore. Windows NT saved Microsoft.

I can definitely foresee TSLA taking a beating for some time. I recently picked up about a little over $5k of TSLA at $190, my wife is pissed. I keep telling her that you have to sit on it for awhile, but she's not very patient
I keep buying the dip and rarely selling during euphoria what's wrong with me. I keep saying it I have so much regret for not being able to see the future think I have a problem. I feel that way because on some level I know for example buying Nvidia stock. But I was too chicken to go all in.

Fun fact: in 2013 I was bitcoin mining back then it was an utter disaster. So much fraud and trying to connect to a node was iffy at best. I gave up after 5 coins and change I could have been insanely wealthy if I had just kept going. I think it took almost 2 years to mine 5 coin, a bunch of CPU cycles were wasted due to connection issues and other nonsense.

patgilm Mar 7, 2024 06:22 AM


Originally Posted by LeX2K (Post 11682555)
Go back a few versions, Windows was trash. At one time I was running the beta of Windows 2000 because I couldn't take the blue screens anymore. Windows NT saved Microsoft.

I keep buying the dip and rarely selling during euphoria what's wrong with me. I keep saying it I have so much regret for not being able to see the future think I have a problem. I feel that way because on some level I know for example buying Nvidia stock. But I was too chicken to go all in.

Fun fact: in 2013 I was bitcoin mining back then it was an utter disaster. So much fraud and trying to connect to a node was iffy at best. I gave up after 5 coins and change I could have been insanely wealthy if I had just kept going. I think it took almost 2 years to mine 5 coin, a bunch of CPU cycles were wasted due to connection issues and other nonsense.

Speaking of Nvidia, I usually don't look at my IRA much but I have a bunch of stocks in there and I thought I had Nvidia and I do! My advisor bought close to 100 shares at $65 back then, pretty decent return. The one stock that I still kick myself for not buying was Chipotle, back when they had some issues with people getting sick (around 2019 I think) the stock dropped from nearly $500 a share to around $250 and I was going to put $20k in it and my advisor said agreed it was a good buy but my wife didn't want me to do it, go look at what the stock is now.

SW17LS Mar 7, 2024 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by LeX2K (Post 11682552)
Gates is a brilliant business man but extremely ruthless. It was pure genius on his part to license out Windows, IBM was so dumb they should have demanded a license from Microsoft to install on IBM hardware. Back then IBM had all the clout and they blew it. Gates has mastered the act of being the, aw shucks I'm just a lowly guy doing my best and making the world a better place. The guy is snake.

Most successful businesspeople are ruthless, Elon Musk is pretty darn ruthless too, but you love him...if they weren't ruthless they would not be successful.

bitkahuna Mar 7, 2024 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11682678)
Most successful businesspeople are ruthless, Elon Musk is pretty darn ruthless too, but you love him...if they weren't ruthless they would not be successful.

100% you don't get to make a giant omelette without breaking a lotta eggs. :D

JeffKeryk Mar 7, 2024 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by SW17LS (Post 11682678)
Most successful businesspeople are ruthless, Elon Musk is pretty darn ruthless too, but you love him...if they weren't ruthless they would not be successful.

In Silicon Valley, so many C-Level execs are divorced and remarried with trophy wives; oftentimes much younger...

SW17LS Mar 7, 2024 08:46 AM

Oh no doubt

AMIRZA786 Mar 7, 2024 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by LeX2K (Post 11682555)
Go back a few versions, Windows was trash. At one time I was running the beta of Windows 2000 because I couldn't take the blue screens anymore. Windows NT saved Microsoft.

I keep buying the dip and rarely selling during euphoria what's wrong with me. I keep saying it I have so much regret for not being able to see the future think I have a problem. I feel that way because on some level I know for example buying Nvidia stock. But I was too chicken to go all in.

Fun fact: in 2013 I was bitcoin mining back then it was an utter disaster. So much fraud and trying to connect to a node was iffy at best. I gave up after 5 coins and change I could have been insanely wealthy if I had just kept going. I think it took almost 2 years to mine 5 coin, a bunch of CPU cycles were wasted due to connection issues and other nonsense.

I ran Windows NT Workstation when everyone else was running Win 95/98. No plug and play, not a lot of driver support for high end video cards and other hardware, didn't support plug-ins like Flash and was not backwards compatible with 16 bit applications, but it was solid and I learned a lot getting PC games to run on it.

Back around the 2015-2016 era some of us started a company around mining Bitcoin. Electricity wasn't a problem because my friend lived at a co-op in SF with free electricity that was specifically setup for startups. The issue was hardware, we ordered equipment from a company called Butterfly Labs, but they never delivered and ended up going out of business. We did a bunch of calculations, and it turned out that we would just end up breaking even, so partners began pulling out. Good God, we would all be rich today had we just stuck to it....

I was going to execute on Nvidia a couple of weeks back when it was around $588, but decided not too. Now it's $917 :egads:. Life's just not freaking fair. But, I have a boatload of TSLA, and for the most part I've made money, I know if I sit on it everything will be fine. Or I'll sell it when it hits $300, then it will hit $500, which will just be my luck

spwolf Mar 7, 2024 10:43 AM

It is boloni that you have to be ruthless. Pushing extraordinary vision might be hard and demanding, building something that nobody did before.

But overall, if you look at lists such as top 100 companies to work for, they are full of huge companies who treat their employees well, usually owned by a billionaire.

Even for Musk or Steve Jobs, there are many people who love building something new and are willing to work 16hrs a day to do it. Anyone who ever worked in a startup will tell you that.

LeX2K Mar 7, 2024 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by AMIRZA786 (Post 11682754)
Back around the 2015-2016 era some of us started a company around mining Bitcoin. Electricity wasn't a problem because my friend lived at a co-op in SF with free electricity that was specifically setup for startups. The issue was hardware, we ordered equipment from a company called Butterfly Labs, but they never delivered and ended up going out of business. We did a bunch of calculations, and it turned out that we would just end up breaking even, so partners began pulling out. Good God, we would all be rich today had we just stuck to it....

Back then I was doing power calculations thinking about potential profits lol. I know a guy that sold when BTC hit $300 or something like that he was so happy to pay for the electricity he burned. Good lord lol. I ran a stock AMD card that thing took a massive beating it never died. I still have it.

I was going to execute on Nvidia a couple of weeks back when it was around $588, but decided not too. Now it's $917 :egads:.
Why can't you see the future? Get it together.

Life's just not freaking fair. But, I have a boatload of TSLA, and for the most part I've made money, I know if I sit on it everything will be fine. Or I'll sell it when it hits $300, then it will hit $500, which will just be my luck
You either believe in Tesla or you don't. If not, sell when you're at least par.

SW17LS Mar 7, 2024 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by spwolf (Post 11682858)
It is boloni that you have to be ruthless. Pushing extraordinary vision might be hard and demanding, building something that nobody did before.

But overall, if you look at lists such as top 100 companies to work for, they are full of huge companies who treat their employees well, usually owned by a billionaire.

Even for Musk or Steve Jobs, there are many people who love building something new and are willing to work 16hrs a day to do it. Anyone who ever worked in a startup will tell you that.

We’re not talking about companies, we’re talking about businesspeople. A company can be a great company to work for and treat their employees well and be founded by a successful person who is ruthless.

Some component of ruthlessness is required for success in business.

AMIRZA786 Mar 7, 2024 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by LeX2K (Post 11682862)
Back then I was doing power calculations thinking about potential profits lol. I know a guy that sold when BTC hit $300 or something like that he was so happy to pay for the electricity he burned. Good lord lol. I ran a stock AMD card that thing took a massive beating it never died. I still have it.

Why can't you see the future? Get it together.

You either believe in Tesla or you don't. If not, sell when you're at least par.

Well, I must believe in TSLA as I've only sold once since 2021, and it was to payoff my Model Y

LeX2K Mar 7, 2024 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by AMIRZA786 (Post 11682888)
Well, I must believe in TSLA as I've only sold once since 2021, and it was to payoff my Model Y

Except you said your sell price is $300. :dunno:

It is a gut punch watching basically every other tech stock go to the moon and TSLA drift into the ditch.

AMIRZA786 Mar 7, 2024 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by LeX2K (Post 11682893)
Except you said your sell price is $300. :dunno:

It is a gut punch watching basically every other tech stock go to the moon and TSLA drift into the ditch.

I can set all the sell price numbers I want, the question is, will I sell? So far set numbers have come and past...and I haven't sold yet. If I sell I either have to reinvest it somewhere else or it's because I have a big purchase

Allen K Mar 7, 2024 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by AMIRZA786 (Post 11682754)
I ran Windows NT Workstation when everyone else was running Win 95/98. No plug and play, not a lot of driver support for high end video cards and other hardware, didn't support plug-ins like Flash and was not backwards compatible with 16 bit applications, but it was solid and I learned a lot getting PC games to run on it.

Back around the 2015-2016 era some of us started a company around mining Bitcoin. Electricity wasn't a problem because my friend lived at a co-op in SF with free electricity that was specifically setup for startups. The issue was hardware, we ordered equipment from a company called Butterfly Labs, but they never delivered and ended up going out of business. We did a bunch of calculations, and it turned out that we would just end up breaking even, so partners began pulling out. Good God, we would all be rich today had we just stuck to it....

I was going to execute on Nvidia a couple of weeks back when it was around $588, but decided not too. Now it's $917 :egads:. Life's just not freaking fair. But, I have a boatload of TSLA, and for the most part I've made money, I know if I sit on it everything will be fine. Or I'll sell it when it hits $300, then it will hit $500, which will just be my luck

I should've kept all that NVDA I bought on margin a few weeks back :p

I did sell a bunch when it first breached $300 to clear margin on my wife's request. I shouldn't listen to my wife


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