now compare this to usual news - companies laying off 2000 employees and stock tanking while CEOs are making billions in guaranteed payments.

Without looking what actually transpired, I was thinking he had some ridiculous sum guaranteed.

you have made endless negative comments about elon musk so it's fair to say you don't like the guy, lol. you also agree with the court that his compensation package was completely out of line, which i vehemently disagree with. he and the company put an 'impossible goal' out there and he and the company achieved it anyway, we should be singing his and their praises, not praising a kangaroo political court and a pathetic disgruntled shareholder for tearing him down.

me saying you don't like elon musk (based on your posts!) isn't personal imo. my post wasn't political either.

you are very eloquent and articulate writer for sure. respectfully i just don't buy the arguments a lot of the time even if they're 'obvious' to you. it's all good, just debating from different points of view.

California highway patrol shares video of Tesla Semi in action on closed icy road: 'These trucks are the real thing'

The rollout of Tesla’s Semi truck has been limited to around 100 vehicles, which is why seeing it perform out in the open is still a rare and fascinating experience.

Footage from the California Highway Patrol has added another layer to that interest, with the Semi tackling icy conditions on a closed road.

Electrek shared the video, noting that among the criticisms of the all-electric haulage vehicle is the fact it has been typically used on roads in California and Nevada by existing customers, including Pepsi and Tesla itself.

The conditions for driving in these areas aren’t so troubling for the truck, with typically dry roads and a favorable climate. But if Semis prove successful and are utilized in other states — or even if haulage routes require traveling through different areas with varying weather — they will need to prove they can handle tough situations such as icy roads.

In CHP’s video, the trailer might not have been having the best time, but the Semi itself handled the tricky road well, inching slowly forward while remaining in control.

The performance of Teslas in the cold is a hot topic, with questions surrounding battery performance in chilly temperatures and footage of Cyber Trucks unable to free themselves when stuck in the snow.

But judging by the video alone, the Semi came through unscathed.

The potential of the truck is encouraging for companies looking to reduce the pollution they produce when hauling goods. According to Transport & Environment, heavy-duty vehicles are “responsible for 27% of climate emissions from road transport in Europe, while only accounting for 2% of the vehicles on the road.”

In the United States, the Environmental Protection Agency says the freight transportation sector contributes 50% of nitrogen oxide pollution as well as 30% of volatile organic compounds and 20% of particulate matter.

“Within transportation, heavy-duty trucks are the fastest-growing contributor to emissions,” the EPA said.

That’s why Semi trucks, which produce zero tailpipe pollution on the road and can provide 500 miles of range on a single charge, could make such a difference in terms of limiting planet-warming pollution and reducing levels of particulate matter — which can cause respiratory and cardiovascular illnesses.

“When I was with the Tesla Semi team we used them to pull trailers stuck in the snow out in the yard that diesel trucks couldn’t budge,” one comment on Electrek read. “These trucks are the real thing.”

“Wow, the regenerative braking deceleration helps stabilize driving on ice,” another added. “One more advantage for electric cars!”

https://autos.yahoo.com/california-h...l?guccounter=1

@bitkahuna Elon didn’t create Tesla…just saying.

Also, I got my bonus today it was 25% short because of the market volume, I expect everybody who was concerned about Elon’s package to be incredibly upset and incredulous that they would do something like that to me.

PM me for addresses you can write to lol

but you still got 75% of your bonus, elon musk got nada.

I only read one article on this and it didn’t say much but it sounds like the board or comp committee approved his comp plan back in 2018 and since it was incentive based comp tied to the stock price at the time and certain goals to achieve it may not have been too outrageous based on where the stock price was back then. Problem is since the stock price skyrocketed way more than anyone probably imagined, it looks outrageous. Just seems kind of BS denying it even though it seems outrageous.

Putting the comp package to the side, as well as Musks colorful personality and sometimes questionable antics, it's true that Elon wasn't a Tesla founder, but he built that company to what it is today. For that, he has my utmost gratitude, because while others abandoned BEV'S, he doubled down and did what most would consider impossible, make EV'S mainstream. Love him or hate him, I have to respect what he's done for the automotive world

not just the automotive world. the large scale battery systems, the solar roofing tiles, the re-usable space ships which have revolutionized space travel bringing its cost down ENORMOUSLY, and more.

as patgilm eloquenty stated... the giant goals tied to compensation in 2018 seemed wild but were achieved. i don't care if that meant musk was paid a trillion dollars. that's how capitalism is supposed to work. big risks can bring big rewards. the whining of 'not fair' and 'too much' and board manipulation should be thrown on the garbage heap with socialism and communism.

i once debated who had done more for the world, mother teresa, or bill gates. it was a no brainer.

I think what @patgilm said makes sense. The compensation package was tied to stock prices in 2018, and as we know, the stock has exponentially shot up. It's kind of like if I owed someone 10 Bitcoin that was .10 cents, but today it's $67k. Regardless, I owe him 10 Bitcoin. Lex had mentioned something to the effect, but he didn't say it as clearly. Sorry Lex 😁

Regardless, the ruling was made, fairly or unfairly not much any of us can do about it

I was fully on board with your argument until Bill Gates you will not find a more despicable human being. Microsoft stole almost every idea they profited from. Office is a total rip off of WorkPerfect and Lotus. Windows for 15+ years was an unreliable piece of crap cobbled together with concepts stolen from GEM, AmigaDOS, Apple and others. The lost productivity from Windows failing likely cost businesses trillions. And it gets even better, Billy decided he is a climate and medical expert he is neither.

Bill Gates famously shorted Tesla stock the same man that preaches to everyone we face extinction if we don't reduce carbon. You don't short the stock of a company that actually helps reduce carbon unless you are a con artist. He also famously said the Tesla Semi was impossible. And there are so many other things he's involved with that we can't get into here.

You should feel bad for putting Bill Gates on even the smallest pedestal.

I sense you don't like Bill Gates 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Elon must has absolutely not gotten nothing, how do you think he is worth $210B if he has been paid nothing? They will work out a compensation agreement that is agreed to by a board that isn’t under the control of the person who is getting the bonus. Thats the issue, not the money.

Even if he gets or got nothing though, I couldn’t possibly care less…he will be fine.

I should, made a career fixing his crap lol.

It takes a lot of skill to steal someone's ideas and make billions from them. plus, I owe my whole IT career to Windows. Fixed a lot of blue screens 😁

I was on the Bill Gates train until I found out he was a serial harasser. Having seen sexual harassment throughout my career, that's something I can't stomach

Gates is a brilliant business man but extremely ruthless. It was pure genius on his part to license out Windows, IBM was so dumb they should have demanded a license from Microsoft to install on IBM hardware. Back then IBM had all the clout and they blew it. Gates has mastered the act of being the, aw shucks I'm just a lowly guy doing my best and making the world a better place. The guy is snake.
Of course, but don't tell me at times Microsoft's issues didn't annoy you to the point of pure rage. I will say, Microsoft's dev tools are excellent hate to admit it but I grew to love Visual Studio. I made some incredibly complex and powerful applications, looking back at them now I wonder how I did it.
We can't talk about it here, but his wife left him for shall we say Bill's questionable acts.

Back to Tesla I have a feeling the stock is going to take an epic beating in the next few months.