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Old Apr 6, 2025 | 05:30 PM
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Just saying, in general, the Lexus ES is considered more reliable than the GMC Yukon, with Lexus consistently ranking high in reliability studies, while the Yukon, being a larger, more complex vehicle, can have more issues. This poster asked about his Lexus, not a GMC Car, so I think we have to consider the actual vehicles. If I bought many other cars, I might want a warranty....But a Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Acura....I think we are good.
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Old Apr 6, 2025 | 06:37 PM
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Exactly. Years ago I was buying a 2004 Camry and the business manager was putting their squeeze on to sell an extended warrantee. I just looked him in the eye and asked “why do you think I’m buying another Toyota?”. End of discussion. My daughter is still driving that car with 250,000 miles on it.
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Old Apr 7, 2025 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeaco
Just saying, in general, the Lexus ES is considered more reliable than the GMC Yukon, with Lexus consistently ranking high in reliability studies, while the Yukon, being a larger, more complex vehicle, can have more issues. This poster asked about his Lexus, not a GMC Car, so I think we have to consider the actual vehicles. If I bought many other cars, I might want a warranty....But a Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Acura....I think we are good.

Are you trying to tell me that a new Lexus has less electronic features than a GM product?
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Old Apr 7, 2025 | 10:00 AM
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honda/acura is pretty poopoo. i wouldn't lump them in with toyota products, particuarly camry/es/avalon/rav4. i'd consider a warranty if it was an acura/honda. the accord might be ok but also maybe not if it has a turbo. a lot of those new turbo honda/acura engines are blowing headgaskets. among other things.
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Old Apr 7, 2025 | 10:36 AM
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Are you trying to tell me that a new Lexus has less electronic features than a GM product?
Don't know about that, but I'm trying to tell you that a new Lexus's components are made to a much higher standard than GM product's. This has been confirmed annually for many years in the surveys of Tier One suppliers, who've repeatedly reported anonymously that if they're supplying the same component to both automakers, they will deliver a better part to Lexus/Toyota because Lexus/Toyota not only has higher standards, but pays them more fairly and treats them with more respect as a business partner. American makers' oh-so-clever MBA's are trained, saying it indelicately, to squeeze the vendor's private parts until their eyes pop out of their head. That "economy" has a price.

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Old Apr 7, 2025 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by LexFinally
Don't know about that, but I'm trying to tell you that a new Lexus's components are made to a much higher standard than GM product's. This has been confirmed annually for many years in the surveys of Tier One suppliers, who've repeatedly reported anonymously that if they're supplying the same component to both automakers, they will deliver a better part to Lexus/Toyota because Lexus/Toyota not only has higher standards, but pays them more fairly and treats them with more respect as a business partner. American makers' oh-so-clever MBA's are trained, saying it indelicately, to squeeze the vendor's private parts until their eyes pop out of their head. That "economy" has a price.

"Reported anonymously" is where your point becomes opinion. The rest of it is moot.
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Old Apr 7, 2025 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by FastDawg
"Reported anonymously" is where your point becomes opinion. The rest of it is moot.
No, sir. Fact, not opinion. There's been a survey on this for decades.

https://www.plantemoran.com/get-to-k...elations-study
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Old Apr 7, 2025 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LexFinally
No, sir. Fact, not opinion. There's been a survey on this for decades.

https://www.plantemoran.com/get-to-k...elations-study

Perfect.....GM is #3 and has increased by 55 points. I guess they have a good relationship with suppliers that has gotten better.
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Old Apr 7, 2025 | 01:01 PM
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Strictly anecdotal, but I have 105k miles on my '22 ESh (not the same model, I know....). Nothing has gone wrong yet, except a wheel bearing which was my fault for hitting a curb.

Aftermarket parts are very inexpensive. I replaced the hub assembly myself in 30 minutes with the Autozone part for $141. Even OEM, the part is only about $250. Probably because they use it on like, 7 different models.

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Old Apr 7, 2025 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FastDawg
Perfect.....GM is #3 and has increased by 55 points. I guess they have a good relationship with suppliers that has gotten better.
I have been impressed that GM has moved up substantially. They used to line the bottom of the birdcage with Ford.
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Old Apr 7, 2025 | 06:07 PM
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I googled this information. A GMC Yukon is an Suv. It does not have the repair record of the Lexus. Do a comparison online, which is what I did.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 05:49 AM
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LexFnally makes some valid points. I would only add that Lexus extended warranties, in my experience, are not any better than non-Lexus warranties. The one sold to me at the time of purchase claimed to cover small dents but when I read the contract it only paid for my insurance deductible and limited the size of the dent to about an inch in diameter. To wit, if you need to ask advice on the internet implying you don't understand these warranties well enough to make a wise purchase stay away.

As for FastDawg's advise, if I owned a Corvette I would have an extended warranty or sell/trade it before the warranty runs out.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ndunn
... The one sold to me at the time of purchase claimed to cover small dents but when I read the contract it only paid for my insurance deductible and limited the size of the dent to about an inch in diameter. ...
Insurance policies often impose highly specific and unlikely conditions for claims. Many consumers purchase coverage without thoroughly reviewing the terms beforehand, and in some cases, insurers withhold full policy terms until after the purchase.

I once opted for travel insurance primarily for its substantial lost baggage coverage. However, upon reviewing the terms, I discovered exclusions for jewelry, computers, electronics, and sports equipment like SCUBA gear. In essence, the policy covered only clothing and miscellaneous items and even then it was subject to baggage weight limits and airline-related loss criteria.

Still "Extended Warranty", with the right terms, could be useful considering all the expensive electronics and sensors in the ES.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 07:40 AM
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Notice ndunn's experience: he was told one thing about the content of the agreement (the warranty), but he read the document and saw that the assertion of the salesman was incorrect.
Since the written document will control over any oral discussions, the message here is to read the document itself. Something else that's fun is to ask the salesman to show you "that language" in the warranty. He's probably never read it himself, so that's often fun to watch him try to find something that winds up contradicting his assertion, and it saves you the trouble of reading the whole thing (which you should do anyway to see limitations that were not previously mentioned, like the mandatory prerequisite of filing an insurance claim).
The clue here was the idea that a contract would cover "small dents." No contract will contain a provision for a limitation that is not objectively determinable. The warranty apparently set out a measurement in inches, probably specified as a measurement across its longest span, or something like that which is not open to interpretation. From a car owner's point of view, I submit that there is no such thing as a small dent.
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Old Apr 10, 2025 | 08:10 AM
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I had just driven five hours and it was ten in the morning and I'm being pelted with add-ons. The finance guy pushes this one really hard. It could only be purchased at the time the car is purchased and it had a cancellation period with 100% refund. It also included tire and wheel warranty and in the office was a wheel tire combo that looked like someone missed the railroad crossing at 70mph. He failed to mention that the warranty didn't cover cosmetic damage. He said the ruined wheel tire came in just last week and was covered 100% by this warranty. He handed me page 1 of a 17 page agreement and I was never able to get the other 16 pages. After a good nights rest I ascertained that I had been sold a bill of goods and set about to recoup my hard earned cash. It was weeks of being bounced between the dealership and the underwriting company until my attorney gave them a call and it was cleared up in a day.

I never believed in extended warranties but I was caught in a weak moment. I still don't believe in extended warranties unless it is for a Corvette or some such problem prone vehicle which I would never own for that reason. There might be a good extended warranty out there but I don't have the expertise to evaluate whether 17 pages of legalize is a legitimate investment or not so never again. When a salesman has to go to such theatrics to sell you something it's like the carnies at the county fair so beware.
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