Geiger counter noise
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Well I get what you are saying.
But we don't have to go to that extreme.
There have been write-ups recently in the MSM about cars snooping on drivers.
It's documented everywhere including Lexus' manuals.
I have disabled as much as I could as far as the snooping goes, but
no doubt there are some things that I can't control.
When I had my Nav system disabled by Lexus I asked if they could still gain
access to my vehicle and they said they could!
So much for that.
I don't want/need Lexus to store/track/trace my driving. Period.
Never mind the three letter agencies.
But we don't have to go to that extreme.
There have been write-ups recently in the MSM about cars snooping on drivers.
It's documented everywhere including Lexus' manuals.
I have disabled as much as I could as far as the snooping goes, but
no doubt there are some things that I can't control.
When I had my Nav system disabled by Lexus I asked if they could still gain
access to my vehicle and they said they could!
So much for that.
I don't want/need Lexus to store/track/trace my driving. Period.
Never mind the three letter agencies.
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Mine and your driving helps Lexus to develop new safety systems such as LKA or regular cruise control.
Also, the images that are captured by the cameras help them to develop better recognition system
I don’t care if they track my driving because I’m not doing nothing wrong and I don’t have anything to hide.
Also, the images that are captured by the cameras help them to develop better recognition system
I don’t care if they track my driving because I’m not doing nothing wrong and I don’t have anything to hide.
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Mine and your driving helps Lexus to develop new safety systems such as LKA or regular cruise control.
Also, the images that are captured by the cameras help them to develop better recognition system
I don’t care if they track my driving because I’m not doing nothing wrong and I don’t have anything to hide.
Also, the images that are captured by the cameras help them to develop better recognition system
I don’t care if they track my driving because I’m not doing nothing wrong and I don’t have anything to hide.
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Ever since I declined the master data consent my battery drainage has greatly been reduced as it should not be transmitting to Lexus anymore. Still have not verified by hooking ammeter up but will at some point. They still have the capability of turning back on by court order, etc. Not sure there is anyway to disable the cellular modem if someone wanted to as I think it is built into the DCM module.
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Measure voltage after couple of days not driving compared to before. You can tell. Sometimes before it would be down around 11.9. 2020 ES300h. Something else to point out here is if you have active subscriptions you probably would not want to decline consent. All mine ended except 10 yr and only gave me remote fob start which I never used anyway
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Did you look for a Geiger counter in the back seat? It's usually the most obvious thing that is the cause.
Except when it isn't. I had this truck with a squeak in the door. I kept taking it in and they kept telling me they couldn't find it. Finally the shop manager took control of the situation. He disassembled the door piece by piece and would test it on their little torture track until finally it was a bare door right down to the skin and frame and it was would still squeak. So he began to pull up and push down on the door while driving and it would quit. Come to find out it was loose bolts on the door hinge. Finding these sounds is more art than science.
Except when it isn't. I had this truck with a squeak in the door. I kept taking it in and they kept telling me they couldn't find it. Finally the shop manager took control of the situation. He disassembled the door piece by piece and would test it on their little torture track until finally it was a bare door right down to the skin and frame and it was would still squeak. So he began to pull up and push down on the door while driving and it would quit. Come to find out it was loose bolts on the door hinge. Finding these sounds is more art than science.
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Did you look for a Geiger counter in the back seat? It's usually the most obvious thing that is the cause.
Except when it isn't. I had this truck with a squeak in the door. I kept taking it in and they kept telling me they couldn't find it. Finally the shop manager took control of the situation. He disassembled the door piece by piece and would test it on their little torture track until finally it was a bare door right down to the skin and frame and it was would still squeak. So he began to pull up and push down on the door while driving and it would quit. Come to find out it was loose bolts on the door hinge. Finding these sounds is more art than science.
Except when it isn't. I had this truck with a squeak in the door. I kept taking it in and they kept telling me they couldn't find it. Finally the shop manager took control of the situation. He disassembled the door piece by piece and would test it on their little torture track until finally it was a bare door right down to the skin and frame and it was would still squeak. So he began to pull up and push down on the door while driving and it would quit. Come to find out it was loose bolts on the door hinge. Finding these sounds is more art than science.
If I was a betting man I would lay my dollars on it being sensor-based.
I have disabled quite a few things on my car.
Possibly a sensor trying to communicate with another part that isn't cooperating.
But it definitely is not mechanical as your story above relates.
Since it's almost guaranteed that I won't be able to find out what the communication is all about,
I think I'll be forced to just disconnect the back left speaker and be done with it.
As I mentioned I have already disconnected two in the front, so one more won't break the joint.
There are plenty more.
It's just that getting to the door speaker is a lot more involved than it is to the front speakers on the dash board.
I'll leave it to the spring/summer when it warms up.
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If someone can tell me exactly which fuse to pull I'm willing to test it out.
I worked with the fuses around six months ago or so and saw that many fuses handle more than one function.