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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 07:45 AM
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I have dash cameras on all my cars for peace of mind and highly recommend them
agreed, my first dash cam was in 2014, when very few people had them. back then you had to jerry rig, customized ones meant for sports/action/biking. I did this whole hack/setup. worked great for years, but was maintenance heavy (a bit) because you need to replace the capacitor.

Now today, I have 11 cameras on the car and i will be going for 12, possibly 13. any time i drive a car without them, i feel so weird and vulnerable. even one camera feels weird now LOL.

a general tip when installing camera wires... try not to stuff them in the a/b/c pillars due to obviously, the airbags. instead, remove the panels and professionally run the wires through existing OE wire runs behind or out of the way of an airbag. last thing you need is a 50 cent wire causing you injury or worse.
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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 07:53 AM
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that's very true, run the wires BEHIND the air bags.. not in front.
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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by armoredmajors
1) Assuming I follow your method, as I attempted to do, are you saying that I am correct in running it along the panel edge without tucking it in behind the panel the way we were able to with the headliner, and that the little bit of jutting out before going into the quarter panel cavity is okay (circled in blue)?
I was able to get it entirely behind the panel. I do not recall totally but I believe it was because after you remove the quarter panel cover (adjacent to the car seat) you can get your hand into the quarter panel cavity and maneuver the cable so that it is behind the C-pillar cover. The small bit of cable visible in your blue oval is not visible in my install.

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2) What are you referring to by "the end of this paragraph"? The top of the picture I took would seem to be where the rear headliner and the C-pillar meet, which is where I had successfully gotten to before encountering the issue I originally described. So it sounds like when you say "you can run from there in behind the weatherstrip/panel as before", you are referring to exactly the weatherstrip along the C-pillar panel which you just agreed "you cannot run behind it from the weatherstrip side", which sounds like a contradiction?
You can run the cable around the C panel cover in two ways. Starting from where the headliner meets the door and the C-panel cover, you can run between the headliner and the C-panel cover out to the rear windshield. Then you can come down along to the rear windshield to the bottom of the rear windshield, then under the fuzzy rear dashboard, back to the quarter panel area. Most of that zone is empty, except for the airbag which is at the front of the C-panel. In that path you will not even be near the airbag, as long as you stay at the top of the C-panel cover.

You can also run the cable under the weatherstripping (NOT under the C-panel cover, because there is no space). It's a much shorter run. I believe that is what you did in your picture. I believe it is what I did also but I don't recall anymore. This also does not need to have anything to do with the airbag.

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3) After running down into the quarter panel cavity, it sounds like you run it further back before popping back out behind the fuzzy dash (location circled in green in the updated pic), correct? I could try that, though for now I have it coming out directly behind the seat since there seems to be enough space there as well (circled in yellow). Would this be okay as long as I'm fine having the some of the cord bundled up and sitting exposed behind the seat?
The fuzzy rear dashboard is basically not attached to the C-panel cover. They are far apart enough in my car that you can put a finger between them. You can easily run the cable between the rear dashboard and the C-panel cover, and just as easily run the cable between the rear dashboard and the rear windshield. There is a huge amount of gap space there. Let the excess cable sit in the quarter panel cavity, since it will be easily accessible there, and since there is lots and lots of space. You could also let it sit in the cavity on top of the trunk and under the fuzzy rear dashboard, but I feel like it would slide around and make sounds. Especially if you play a lot of untz untz club music.

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4) Re: the two methods, while I understand the advantage of avoiding the airbags, I see "SRS Airbag" marked both on the C pillar cover as well as on the quarter panel cover (see new photo, circled in red), so wouldn't either method be obstructing an airbag regardless?
Not really. The airbag must open in a very specific way. It's going to open from the rear and cover the window in a side curtain. Therefore you should be concerned mostly about it's expansion in that direction. It doesn't expand very much in the upwards or rearwards directions. So if your cable is back there and not close to it, it will not be affected. Its sort of like running the cable between the airbag and the metal frame of the car - if it was there, we wouldnt be worried either.
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Old Feb 12, 2025 | 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by mmatheny
“The front camera is mounted to the top of the windshield, to the right of the rear view mirror. The power cable runs through the headliner into the housing for the auto dimming lights. I would be happy to provide more details on that installation if someone is interested”
I’m interested!!
Google for the Dongar adaptor. It splits the power into the rear view mirror. Basically it's a plug on one end, and it splits into two plugs on the other end. The old power cable goes into one side, the old rear view mirror gets the other side, and the last is a power adaptor for your camera. You need to tie it up a bit so that it fits behind the auto-dimming camera plate, but that's basically it. No soldering, wirestripping, or wire twisting. All plugs. So:

Step 1) remove auto dimming plate.
Step 2) unclip old power adaptor.
Step 3) clip in dongar adaptor.
Step 4) clip dongar adaptor into old plug for auto dimming rear view mirror.
Step 5) clip in power cable for dashcam.
Step 6) replace auto dimming cover plate

This install works perfectly, but it is **ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL** to make sure you have a high spec usb-C cable for the power. The newer dashcams, especially those with two channels or more, draw a lot of power. Any ****ty old usb-C cable won't do it. Worse, they will power it on for a few drives, then it will randomly lose power. That is completely not tolerable.

I tried 5-6 cables until this one did the trick:
Fasgear USB C Short Cables 1ft, 3 Pack Fast Charging Braided USB A to Type C 2.0 Charger Cords Compatible for Sam-Sung Galaxy S21 Ultra Note 20 S10 Plus S9 S8,Nexus 5X, One-Plus 3, Huawei P20, Black Fasgear USB C Short Cables 1ft, 3 Pack Fast Charging Braided USB A to Type C 2.0 Charger Cords Compatible for Sam-Sung Galaxy S21 Ultra Note 20 S10 Plus S9 S8,Nexus 5X, One-Plus 3, Huawei P20, Black

This works because it uses a high gauge cable that brings in more power than most USB-C cables do. Use the shortest cable you can use (I use 1 foot) to further reduce resistance on the cable. You just need to go out from the rear view mirror box, into the headliner, and then back into the camera. So not that far all told.

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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by minotaar
Google for the Dongar adaptor. It splits the power into the rear view mirror. Basically it's a plug on one end, and it splits into two plugs on the other end. The old power cable goes into one side, the old rear view mirror gets the other side, and the last is a power adaptor for your camera. You need to tie it up a bit so that it fits behind the auto-dimming camera plate, but that's basically it. No soldering, wirestripping, or wire twisting. All plugs. So:

Step 1) remove auto dimming plate.
Step 2) unclip old power adaptor.
Step 3) clip in dongar adaptor.
Step 4) clip dongar adaptor into old plug for auto dimming rear view mirror.
Step 5) clip in power cable for dashcam.
Step 6) replace auto dimming cover plate

This install works perfectly, but it is **ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL** to make sure you have a high spec usb-C cable for the power. The newer dashcams, especially those with two channels or more, draw a lot of power. Any ****ty old usb-C cable won't do it. Worse, they will power it on for a few drives, then it will randomly lose power. That is completely not tolerable.

I tried 5-6 cables until this one did the trick:
Fasgear USB C Short Cables 1ft, 3 Pack Fast Charging Braided USB A to Type C 2.0 Charger Cords Compatible for Sam-Sung Galaxy S21 Ultra Note 20 S10 Plus S9 S8,Nexus 5X, One-Plus 3, Huawei P20, Black

This works because it uses a high gauge cable that brings in more power than most USB-C cables do. Use the shortest cable you can use (I use 1 foot) to further reduce resistance on the cable. You just need to go out from the rear view mirror box, into the headliner, and then back into the camera. So not that far all told.
Which Dongar adapter did you get?
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Old Feb 15, 2025 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mmatheny
Which Dongar adapter did you get?
This one: Dongar Dashcam Power Adapter (10-pin Type B).
Amazon Amazon

I am aware that Amazon says that it's not compatible with a 7th gen lexus ES. But that is what I got and it works fine. You're welcome.
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Old Jun 23, 2025 | 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by minotaar
This one: Dongar Dashcam Power Adapter (10-pin Type B).
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BH4G1NW...d_asin_title_1

I am aware that Amazon says that it's not compatible with a 7th gen lexus ES. But that is what I got and it works fine. You're welcome.
Great post! I might have missed it but what year is your ES350? Dongar's website shows this model is only compatible with model year 2019-2023 (perhaps updated since you posted)?
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Old Jun 23, 2025 | 07:40 AM
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I have a 2023. At the time I bought this stuff, it was still 2023, and understandable if it had not been updated to anticipate another model year. I cannot confirm if 2024 and 2025 models have been updated, but my guess is that it would be a fuckton of trouble and expense to change such a small thing so late in the model lifecycle. I'd chance it.

The dashcam forums (dashcamtalk.com) have excellent discussion of year-specific adapters and things. It's probably worth looking there to see if someone else has installed the dongar on a later model ES. It's also worth asking around on reddit dashcam forums and lexus forums to see if anyone there has your answer also. Of course you can email the seller on amazon too.
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Old Jun 23, 2025 | 02:20 PM
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Their tech support people confirmed that the regular 10-pin type B will work in 2024 and 2025 models so long as they have the auto dimming mirror so I prefer that more simple connector. Thanks!

Do you have any installation tips or gotchas you'd share? I found the following videos but like you, I don't want to break anything if I can help it.
This one shows the process albeit installing the Linux official one:
I ordered the same pry tool from amazon the guy in the video is using.
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Old Jun 23, 2025 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by doomstar
Do you have any installation tips or gotchas you'd share? I found the following videos but like you, I don't want to break anything if I can help it.
You mean like other than what I wrote in the original post? No.
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Old Jun 24, 2025 | 12:08 PM
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Turned out to be even easier than what is shown in the video I linked. I did not have to remove the dome light assemble. Just removing the inner/outer plastic shroud was enough. Waiting on a 90-degree USB-A to USB-C cable to finalize cable routing, will then post a pic or two. Thank for the replies.
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Old Jun 26, 2025 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Lesley248
Alternatively, I have my front dashcam (Viofo) attached via command strips in the middle of the mirror box thing. I have my ezpass on the right of the box and radar detector on the left.

Direct centered view from vehicle, a little more hidden and the status light is easily viewable to catch in case it's malfunctioning.
Can you post a picture of your installation location?
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Old Jun 26, 2025 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by minotaar
The focus I have here is on running the USB cable from the front camera to the rear camera, in a car that has a retractable rear sunshade.
What would you have done differently if you didn't have the rear sunshade option? Originally, I was thinking the rear-facing camera should go at the top of the rear window, but not sure if it would make a huge difference in the angle of coverage.

Did you consider the 3-camera set-up, with a third camera (built into the head unit) that faces the passenger compartment? I'm not sure how necessary it is, but would be an added layer of security.
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Old Jun 27, 2025 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilson2000
What would you have done differently if you didn't have the rear sunshade option? Originally, I was thinking the rear-facing camera should go at the top of the rear window, but not sure if it would make a huge difference in the angle of coverage.

Did you consider the 3-camera set-up, with a third camera (built into the head unit) that faces the passenger compartment? I'm not sure how necessary it is, but would be an added layer of security.
At the time, if I didnt have the rear sunshade, I'd have put it at the top, not knowing any better and just following everyone else. Now that I've installed it at the bottom, and now that I've experienced driving with it for long periods at the bottom, if I had to do it again, I probably would put it at the bottom. You just get used to it and it's presence isn't a big deal, and you can see plenty. The rear camera is a pretty small device. Also, the install on the bottom is better: running cabling around the fuzzy rear dashboard is ******* trivial, whereas putting it above the rear headliner is less so. People say that the angle from the top of the rear windshield is better, and obviously it has to be somewhat true. However, I do not find there to be any serious compromise with it. I have a very high resolution dashcam and it works fine. I think the space of collisions where the top-mount is actually qualitatively better than the bottom mount is basically zero. Also, there is no real visibility limitation from the presence of the trunk.

I did consider a three camera setup, but that is basically for uber drivers worried about getting stabbed or having evidence for post-club pukers. Not really my issue. I would be more likely to consider a side window setup, but then you'd need four. Overall, I think a two camera setup (4k in front, 2k in back) is excellent for documenting the causes of collisions. The most important thing is to show that your car is stopped when the other car hits you in a parking lot. 80% of accidents happen in parking lots at low speeds; even if the other car is not on the camera you can prove that you were stopped when they hit you, so it is 100% their fault. I had some jackass back up into me in a parking lot, and my insurer subrogated them without too much of a fuss (Except for stupid website problems).

At some point the tech will be such that we can have four cameras that cover the car in a more 360 way. I wish it was built in like in a tesla. But for the time being 2 cameras are good enough for this long distance commuter.


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Thanks, I'll be running a wire for the rear camera in my new (to me) 2021 RC350, I have done this type of thing on other cars but not a Lexus, hopefully I will be able to keep all the clips in tact.
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