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Kalup Mar 8, 2022 07:53 PM

Is there new Lexus Software Update for the ES?
 
I have the ES300h 2020 model. I'm wondering if there is new Lexus software update.
Lately I was driving the IS 2021 and the software there is much better especially the Lane Tracing Assist.
Tx

grp52 Mar 8, 2022 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by Kalup (Post 11243854)
I have the ES300h 2020 model. I'm wondering if there is new Lexus software update.
Lately I was driving the IS 2021 and the software there is much better especially the Lane Tracing Assist.
Tx

The 2022 ES has the updated Lexus Safety System 2.5+ but as far as I know there's no update for prior model years' 2.0 version. As detailed as part of my Considering buying used ES model. 2019-2021 prior refresh advice needed. post #9 the 2.5+ added features were "Intersection Turning Assist" consisting of "Vehicle Detection (when turning left)" and "Pedestrian Detection (when turning right or left)"; "Emergency Steering Assist"; curve speed reduction to the "All-Speed Dynamic Radar Cruise Control (DRCC)", and "improved course recognition" to "Lane Tracing Assist (LTA)".

glamglam Mar 9, 2022 05:39 AM

How about 3.0+ Version? What does 3.0+ Version have that 2.5+ Versiondoesn’t have? The reason why I’m asking this is because all the Lexus NX has 3.0+ Version in them.

mattsrs Mar 9, 2022 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by glamglam (Post 11243983)
How about 3.0+ Version? What does 3.0+ Version have that 2.5+ Versiondoesn’t have? The reason why I’m asking this is because all the Lexus NX has 3.0+ Version in them.

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LS500Fan Mar 9, 2022 07:35 AM

FYI regarding that chart just posted, here in Canada on the 2022 ES, LSS+ 2.5+ does include ALL-SPEED DYNAMIC RADAR CRUISE CONTROL WITH CURVE SPEED MANAGEMENT (DRCC) - that chart shows it doesn't exist in 2.5+. Perhaps it's a regional thing, I don't know.

PrznPrince Mar 9, 2022 09:06 AM

Oh some nice updates with 3.0! Shame they couldnt work that into the 2022 ES, would be nice if a software update covered that in the future but I doubt it

mattsrs Mar 9, 2022 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by LS500Fan (Post 11244054)
FYI regarding that chart just posted, here in Canada on the 2022 ES, LSS+ 2.5+ does include ALL-SPEED DYNAMIC RADAR CRUISE CONTROL WITH CURVE SPEED MANAGEMENT (DRCC) - that chart shows it doesn't exist in 2.5+. Perhaps it's a regional thing, I don't know.

yea I have seen it as 2.5+ features list for US too but not sure why this latest version of the chart has it this way. This is taken from a Lexus US brochure

mattsrs Mar 9, 2022 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by LS500Fan (Post 11244054)
FYI regarding that chart just posted, here in Canada on the 2022 ES, LSS+ 2.5+ does include ALL-SPEED DYNAMIC RADAR CRUISE CONTROL WITH CURVE SPEED MANAGEMENT (DRCC) - that chart shows it doesn't exist in 2.5+. Perhaps it's a regional thing, I don't know.

have you actually tested the curve speed management feature on your car? I’m going to test it on mine but not optimistic

dklanecky1 Mar 9, 2022 11:10 AM


Originally Posted by PrznPrince (Post 11244107)
Oh some nice updates with 3.0! Shame they couldnt work that into the 2022 ES, would be nice if a software update covered that in the future but I doubt it

Based on the 2022 NX feedback on this Club Lexus forum, a few of the owners of the 2022 NX owners are feeling like they are the beta testers here in the USA.

Once Lexus has it all sorted out, (and as chips are available) I'm sure it will roll out to the other models as fast as Lexus can implement it.

It's definitely not just a software update.

Kalup Mar 9, 2022 04:28 PM

Thank you guys for the advice! I have a yearly service in April. I will talk with the Lexus service guys. It sounds ridiculous that software that is the easiest thing to update, was not updated for 2 years.
I understand that some software changes may need hardware changes but I'm sure that the basic enhancements changes can be implemented with an update.

irobot2090 Mar 9, 2022 06:58 PM

Is this software compatible with 19-21 models? or is it just for 22 only?

dklanecky1 Mar 10, 2022 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by Kalup (Post 11244456)
Thank you guys for the advice! I have a yearly service in April. I will talk with the Lexus service guys. It sounds ridiculous that software that is the easiest thing to update, was not updated for 2 years.
I understand that some software changes may need hardware changes but I'm sure that the basic enhancements changes can be implemented with an update.

Lexus sells vehicles and is a vehicle sales company. Once the sell it, their liability for any further software "updates" (or enhancements) is very questionable.

t's already sold, exactly in the condition it was originally when it sold.

Yes there is a warranty, and service after the sale, but any features that you want added, or are made available on later models, I assume Lexus would likely prefer to sell you another vehicle in a few years with new features.

Tesla is a software / computer company first, that assembles and sells vehicles. Tesla is starting to try and change this business model, by introducing a model, and then offering updates to existing owners, rather than update the newest version of the model. When was the Model S first offered? Has it been a decade?

I don't expect Toyota or Lexus to give away any new features to existing owners. This may change if Tesla can change the business model, but as of now, I don't see it changing any time soon.

Kalup Mar 10, 2022 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by dklanecky1 (Post 11244748)
Lexus sells vehicles and is a vehicle sales company. Once the sell it, their liability for any further software "updates" (or enhancements) is very questionable.

t's already sold, exactly in the condition it was originally when it sold.

Yes there is a warranty, and service after the sale, but any features that you want added, or are made available on later models, I assume Lexus would likely prefer to sell you another vehicle in a few years with new features.

Tesla is a software / computer company first, that assembles and sells vehicles. Tesla is starting to try and change this business model, by introducing a model, and then offering updates to existing owners, rather than update the newest version of the model. When was the Model S first offered? Has it been a decade?

I don't expect Toyota or Lexus to give away any new features to existing owners. This may change if Tesla can change the business model, but as of now, I don't see it changing any time soon.

If this is the case, that is very bad for Lexus customers. I drove Tesla before buying the ES and I wasn't impressed by the interior and the driving quality.
It is hard for me to believe that this is the treatment of Lexus customers!
As I said, I will Check with Lexus about this...

mattsrs Mar 10, 2022 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by Kalup (Post 11245106)
If this is the case, that is very bad for Lexus customers. I drove Tesla before buying the ES and I wasn't impressed by the interior and the driving quality.
It is hard for me to believe that this is the treatment of Lexus customers!
As I said, I will Check with Lexus about this...

I currently also have a BMW X5 and they constantly have updated the software over the air and added new functionality from improving drive assist features to adding Android Auto and I believe they also activated adaptive headlights via software update. Point is Tesla is not a unicorn on this and many other brands also have modernized their software updates. Lexus will be even further behind in technology if they don’t do things via software update. At least theres a software update menu item that doesn’t do anything yet so the functionality is there.

ionian Mar 10, 2022 04:48 PM

Each manufacturer has its own strengths and weaknesses. I have 2019 ES300h and wish like the next owner about getting some major software updates. Unfortunately it isn't going to happen. Lexus is traditionally a very conservative company that is slow to change and with good reasons. They roll out new technology feature slowly after going through extensive testings and validations. They choose long reliability over bleeding edge. If you want latest edge technology you should go elsewhere.


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