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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 01:50 PM
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I. To this I would say, I'm a busy man with many vehicles!
so you don’t have 30 sec to spare per wheel per month? That’s how long it takes for me to set the tire pressure.



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Maybe if you have a formula one team waiting for you as you pull into the pits with full ABS braking. lol

Takes time to pull the filling device/drive to the gas station what have you
Set up said device, park/position car or plug into the car, route the cord to the corner of the car you want to fill WITHOUT touching/scraping the paint
Undo the valve stem cap set aside (make sure it doesn't roll away)
Fill tires with air (if not using a professional unit at the gas station), the fill time is painfully slow. So this takes some time.
Monitor, let air out if you go past. Or monitor and fill again until you reach target. Check again.
Close cap
Rinse and repeat routing the hose/cord to the next wheel/other side of the car so it doesn't scratch the paint etc.
Wash hands
Reinstall all caps
Put away device

So there's a bit more to it than 30s per wheel.
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 03:44 PM
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Maybe if you have a formula one team waiting for you as you pull into the pits with full ABS braking. lol

Takes time to pull the filling device/drive to the gas station what have you
Set up said device, park/position car or plug into the car, route the cord to the corner of the car you want to fill WITHOUT touching/scraping the paint
Undo the valve stem cap set aside (make sure it doesn't roll away)
Fill tires with air (if not using a professional unit at the gas station), the fill time is painfully slow. So this takes some time.
Monitor, let air out if you go past. Or monitor and fill again until you reach target. Check again.
Close cap
Rinse and repeat routing the hose/cord to the next wheel/other side of the car so it doesn't scratch the paint etc.
Wash hands
Reinstall all caps
Put away device

So there's a bit more to it than 30s per wheel.
Nope still takes 30s per wheel for me. No power cords. No petrol station. No routing of long cords. High speed portable unit all ready in the garage that does high volume like beds and high pressure like tyres. No checking of pressure you set the psi and it stops automatically. Remembers the psi from last setting. No washing hands. I use a tissue to open the valve cap and then throw away.







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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The car has a real time tire pressure monitoring system, so there isn’t any risk of tires deflating lower than you realize. There’s no safety tradeoff.

By airing the tires higher than the vehicle manufacturer recommends you’re already potentially compromising handling if you use that as a benchmark.
I don't have "real time monitoring" in any of my vehicles. I imagine the readings are found in a menu somewhere, unless a tire's pressure drops below a set level, so drivers aren't likely constantly monitoring the monitor. My older TPMS systems only show a warning light when a tire is more than 25% below spec. In my ES, the door label specifies 30 lbs, but the light won't come on until 22.5 lbs. If all four tires naturally leaked out seven pounds of air, this could be a safety concern in some circumstances.

Based on Toyota's 25% set point for a low warning light leads me to believe my strategy of inflating my tires 2 lbs above spec and refilling 6 months later when they have naturally leaked down to 2 lbs below spec, is not a safety issue.
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Originally Posted by 703
Nope still takes 30s per wheel for me. No power cords. No petrol station. No routing of long cords. High speed portable unit all ready in the garage that does high volume like beds and high pressure like tyres. No checking of pressure you set the psi and it stops automatically. Remembers the psi from last setting. No washing hands. I use a tissue to open the valve cap and then throw away.


Yeah but the point is that YOU have that. For all intents and purposes that's your "F1 team" aka your dedicated $$$ tire filling solution.
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 05:11 PM
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Yeah but the point is that YOU have that. For all intents and purposes that's your "F1 team" aka your dedicated $$$ tire filling solution.
that’s false equivalency all at levels.
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Old Aug 27, 2021 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Wilson2000
I don't have "real time monitoring" in any of my vehicles. I imagine the readings are found in a menu somewhere, unless a tire's pressure drops below a set level, so drivers aren't likely constantly monitoring the monitor. My older TPMS systems only show a warning light when a tire is more than 25% below spec. In my ES, the door label specifies 30 lbs, but the light won't come on until 22.5 lbs. If all four tires naturally leaked out seven pounds of air, this could be a safety concern in some circumstances.

Based on Toyota's 25% set point for a low warning light leads me to believe my strategy of inflating my tires 2 lbs above spec and refilling 6 months later when they have naturally leaked down to 2 lbs below spec, is not a safety issue.
The ES (and RX) displays all four tire psi in the MID. Just scroll to the appropriate page.
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so you don’t have 30 sec to spare per wheel per month? That’s how long it takes for me to set the tire pressure.
I have a large compressor in my garage, but I just don't have time memory to be checking all my vehicles monthly. Do you really remember to tackle this monthly? If so, kudos!
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Originally Posted by Wilson2000
I have a large compressor in my garage, but I just don't have time memory to be checking all my vehicles monthly. Do you really remember to tackle this monthly? If so, kudos!
you make it sound like you have 8 cars in your garage.
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you make it sound like you have 8 cars in your garage.
No, only five vehicles, one motorcycle and three bicycles, thus the need for a large compressor. I do all my own washing/detailing/maintenance/repairs. Plus, I shop, clean house, do all the: cooking; laundry; yard work; business matters (bills/banking/insurance) for a family of three, and spend a couple of hours exercising each day! Thus the lack of time for monthly air checks. Thank goodness I'm retired, as I was even busier before!
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Originally Posted by E46CT
Yeah but the point is that YOU have that. For all intents and purposes that's your "F1 team" aka your dedicated $$$ tire filling solution.
Those pumps cost $40 lol. Don't be dramatic.
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Originally Posted by Wilson2000
I have a large compressor in my garage, but I just don't have time memory to be checking all my vehicles monthly. Do you really remember to tackle this monthly? If so, kudos!
The 7th Gen ES has a real time tire pressure display. No need to manually check pressures.
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Originally Posted by SW17LS
The 7th Gen ES has a real time tire pressure display. No need to manually check pressures.
I realize the latest gen ES's have this, but, are the tire pressures displayed continuously, or only if you scroll to it, or configure it to display continuously? If so, does this eliminate other screens one may want to monitor continuously? Does one still get a warning light when pressures drop below 25% of spec? Things that are displayed continuously are sometimes overlooked, unless some sort of warning goes off.

I know the OP has 2021, but I have a 2011 ES, so I do have to check my pressures manually.
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Originally Posted by Wilson2000
I realize the latest gen ES's have this, but, are the tire pressures displayed continuously, or only if you scroll to it, or configure it to display continuously? If so, does this eliminate other screens one may want to monitor continuously? Does one still get a warning light when pressures drop below 25% of spec? Things that are displayed continuously are sometimes overlooked, unless some sort of warning goes off.

I know the OP has 2021, but I have a 2011 ES, so I do have to check my pressures manually.
You can display continuously if you choose to leave that page displayed. Yes you'll still get the warning if pressure drops and also indicator which tire is the culprit.
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Old Aug 30, 2021 | 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Wilson2000
No, only five vehicles, one motorcycle and three bicycles, thus the need for a large compressor. I do all my own washing/detailing/maintenance/repairs. Plus, I shop, clean house, do all the: cooking; laundry; yard work; business matters (bills/banking/insurance) for a family of three, and spend a couple of hours exercising each day! Thus the lack of time for monthly air checks. Thank goodness I'm retired, as I was even busier before!
where is your wife with all the cooking and laundry? Lol
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