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doomstar Jun 28, 2025 02:54 PM

Setting to enable DTRL but without having headlights on auto?
 
My 2025 has 4 positions on the headlights control, off, auto, parking lights, and headlights. Off interestingly, also shuts off the DTRLs. I would like to have them on but not have the headlights on auto. Is there some menu option that can do this?

grp52 Jun 28, 2025 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by doomstar (Post 11932320)
My 2025 has 4 positions on the headlights control, off, auto, parking lights, and headlights. Off interestingly, also shuts off the DTRLs. I would like to have them on but not have the headlights on auto. Is there some menu option that can do this?

On page 156 of the 2025 LEXUS ES250, ES350 OWNER'S MANUAL USA AND CANADA ONLY:

1 [parking lights icon] The side marker, parking lights/daytime running lights (→P.156), tail, license plate and instrument panel lights turn on.
...
Daytime running light system
...
● To make your vehicle more visible to other drivers during daytime driving, the daytime running lights turn on automatically when all of the following conditions are met. (The daytime running lights are not designed for use at night.)

• The engine is running
• The parking brake is released
• The headlight switch is in the [parking lights icon] or AUTO* position

*: When the surroundings are bright

The daytime running lights remain on after they illuminate, even if the parking brake is set again.
Since you don't want to use the headlights' AUTO position, the [parking lights icon] position is the one that will also turn on daytime running lights.

doomstar Jun 29, 2025 02:17 AM

Yeah, i found that too searching in the pdf. Was asking about potential for something hidden in the menus but I guess not.

alextv Jun 29, 2025 06:01 AM

I would like to have that also and have not looked in techstream to see if there. I have to turn off auto every time I pull into garage or headlights will come on and stay on for period after cut off to drain battery and forget after next drive for awhile to turn back on. Previous vehicles did have a switch in techstream. I need to look.

Lexuspicious Jun 29, 2025 07:20 AM

I think there are only a couple non ideal workarounds:
  • Lower the brightness threshold at which the headlights turn on: that way you can be on AUTO but the headlight will turn on less often.
  • Lock the car twice to manually turn off the headlights after exiting, in case you still want that functionality.
  • Completely disable the headlights remaining ON after the car is OFF and door closed: set the headlights auto OFF timer to OFF.
  • Have a bright light in your garage to prevent the headlights from turning ON.

Tootsall Jun 29, 2025 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by alextv (Post 11932531)
I would like to have that also and have not looked in techstream to see if there. I have to turn off auto every time I pull into garage or headlights will come on and stay on for period after cut off to drain battery and forget after next drive for awhile to turn back on. Previous vehicles did have a switch in techstream. I need to look.

Do I misunderstand that having your headlights come on and then time out when parking and shutting down in a dark space causes your battery to drain enough that you can’t restart the car? If so you have a bigger issue than just your setting selection of the light switch.

doomstar Jun 29, 2025 07:40 AM

No, nothing to do with battery usage. It's just an annoyance.

alextv Jun 29, 2025 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by Tootsall (Post 11932566)
Do I misunderstand that having your headlights come on and then time out when parking and shutting down in a dark space causes your battery to drain enough that you can’t restart the car? If so you have a bigger issue than just your setting selection of the light switch.

No but why intentionally put additional drain on battery if don't need. I have dealt with the parasitic drain since purchase on 2020 ES300h. The charging system on hybrid never charges the battery like an alternator would. About once/mth I charge to full capacity with maintainer. This is the way system is designed.

Tootsall Jun 29, 2025 11:02 AM

Well, for what it's worth, I've used "Auto" on both Gen 6 and Gen 7 for 6 years and on a Camry for the 13 years before that and never had a problem with the battery draining due to "headlight off" delay on shutdown. Just my experience. You will also note from the manual, that in Canada DRL is used at ALL times, even when the light switch is in the "OFF" position.

alextv Jun 29, 2025 01:37 PM

I thought there were also some states required DRL all time also but maybe not. My LS430 and Tundra have a switch in techstream I just need to check if one for my 300h.

TechNut Jun 29, 2025 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by alextv (Post 11932623)
No but why intentionally put additional drain on battery if don't need. I have dealt with the parasitic drain since purchase on 2020 ES300h. The charging system on hybrid never charges the battery like an alternator would. About once/mth I charge to full capacity with maintainer. This is the way system is designed.

This seems odd to me. I never have to charge my 2019 hybrid. It even occasionally sits for 4 to 6 weeks at a time. I have ever had an issue in my six years of ownership and always leave my headlights on auto. They momentarily illuminate when departing or arriving in the garage.

EDIT: Sorry, I meant "never" had an issue. I really need to proofread my posts better...

alextv Jun 30, 2025 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by TechNut (Post 11932802)
This seems odd to me. I never have to charge my 2019 hybrid. It even occasionally sits for 4 to 6 weeks at a time. I have ever had an issue in my six years of ownership and always leave my headlights on auto. They momentarily illuminate when departing or arriving in the garage.

I don't have to charge it but do because I don't like the fact that after a couple of days the voltage is around 12.17V. Driving will bring up again but even after a trip 12.4 is what reads after 20 min sitting.


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