Originally Posted by DavidZ (Post 11902384)

Neither. I'll keep my V6. :)

Originally Posted by LexusForever (Post 11902721)

I looked into the Acura, I loved how it had a V6 pushing 350 plus HP, nice interior etc.

But it had reported prohlems i just couldn't look past. The Acura brand of yesterday isn't the same as today.

Originally Posted by ATL350 (Post 11902691)

It’s too early to tell, as various factors will come into play. First, will be there or will there not be tariffs in place (and how high), as the next gen will be made in Japan. Secondly, is this redesign too much for the traditional ES buyers? I’m sure the car will still be comfortable enough to drive/ride in, but will (1) the exterior be too polarizing to deter buyers? (2) will the interior be too minimalistic for a generally more traditional, conservative buyer market? (I don’t think “young people” will flock to this a some suggest - “it’s my granddad’d car”) So far it looks too cold and bland to me and not what I would call luxurious, certainly not more so than a Toyota (so why not just get a Camry or a Crown?). Sitting in the car will be a big test for potential buyers. (3) will the added length make it even more difficult for older drivers to maneuver and park than the current model? (4) How many buyers will the demise of the V6 deter? Certainly some, but to be honest people across brand lines people are accepting 4-cylinders whether they really like them or not, as many people just couldn’t care less what’s under the hood. How it drives will matter, is it quiet enough, smooth enough, etc., especially in comparison to the competition. (5) Will this new gen move the traditional ES buyers to the RX/NX to stay in brand or will they just move to Genesis or MB, for instance?

In short, a lot of questions. I do think there will be at least some drop, perhaps substantial - but again, it’s still too early to tell. It will have to be seen in person.

Originally Posted by Jack1986 (Post 11902767)

I think the 7th gen ES will go down as the best looking ES ever.

Originally Posted by coolsaber (Post 11902853)

Anyone see the 7th gen design story CALTY design studio posted on their social media handles?

Originally Posted by bc6152 (Post 11902850)

That's why I'll keep it 'til the wheels fall off.

Originally Posted by esotof (Post 11903218)

I love the 8th generation ES. Will get an ES350h when I can.

Originally Posted by mikemu30 (Post 11903248)

Despite all the hate here, I suspect there will be plenty of love for it as well. What are you driving now if you don't mind my asking?

Originally Posted by coolsaber (Post 11902853)

Anyone see the 7th gen design story CALTY design studio posted on their social media handles?

Originally Posted by Freds430 (Post 11902704)

Great points and agree. I still think in a category sedans that sales are plummeting anyway (Lexus 20% sales from sedans ES sales down 40% over the last ten years) it is a marketing nightmare to do a redesign on a vehicle whose target market is upper middle to older buyers and you come up with this exterior and interior. It reminds me of Bud Light targets an audience with Mulvaney who doesn't buy beer and insult your buying demographic.