zes

Does anybody have the 0-30 and 0-40 acceleration times for the ES and ESh? I can find 0-60 but 90% of the time one does not floor the car to 60. I think 0-30 and 0-40 are more representative of city driving. Thanks.

morgan1819

No idea on the numbers, but acceleration on the ES is a strong point. The smooth engine and transmission make it a joy to zip around town in. Effortless power is how I describe it. My last two cars were an Acura TL and an Audi A6. Both probably had similar numbers to the Lexus, but just didn't 'feel' as zippy. Not a very technical explanation, but just an opinion.

The other two cars obviously handled a little better, at the expense of ride quality. But as a daily driver for around town, the ES is much nicer and easier car to live with.

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jaredsc

Car and Driver has all of those figures for both cars if you look at the full test.

jollick

From https://www.caranddriver.com/lexus/es
2017 ES300h
Zero to 60 mph: 7.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 20.6 sec
Zero to 110 mph: 26.4 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 7.9 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 4.2 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 5.3 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 16.0 sec @ 89 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 116 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 172 ft

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...50-test-review
2015 ES350
C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 5.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 14.2 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 27.1 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 6.1 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 3.5 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.8 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 14.3 @ 100 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 131 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 175 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.77 g*
*Stability-control inhibited
Top speed (governor limited): 116 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 172 ft

jaredsc

You have to look at the test sheet. For example, the ES350's 0-30 time was 2.3 seconds and the 0-40 time was 3.1 seconds.

JDR76

Correct, it's all in the test sheets.

2015 ES350
0-30 mph - 2.3s
0-40 mph - 3.1s

2017 ES300h
0-30 mph - 3.0s
0-40 mph - 4.3s

LexBob2

The test results of the ES350 are impressive, especially considering that this drivetrain has been used in the ES for 12 models years now. It's probably due for some updates but is holding up very well.

jgscott

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I remember reading a lot of different articles and test reviews comparing the 6th Gen ES350 to the V6 Accord and other cars in its class. They were saying that even tho the ES350 made a few less than the others horsepower, that it was placed in the powerband better using it, and that it accounted for the ES350 being faster in the ranges in the others cars that had more horse power.

zes

Thank you guys!

The ES 350 is amazingly quick. Up to 30mph in the city, though, if one does not have to floor it the 300h should feel almost as quick.

zes

You know these car reviews are so funny. I just went to the Car & Drivers website and it states that the ESh brakes have poor feeling as they go from regent to regular. Complete nonsense. I have had my 2014 for 40,000 miles now. Not once have I been able to tell when it switches from regen to regular. I have been driving since 1973 and I think the ESh brakes are as good as they get. Braking distances in the data above are identical. In fact my ESh was in the body shop for hail damage repair and during this period I rented Altima, Malibus and a Hyundai. I felt like kissing my ES after I got it back.

jollick

I agree 100% regarding the brakes on my 2013 ESh.

JDR76

It's a fantastic engine. I had it in my RX and loved it. In a lighter car like the ES, it's quite fleet.

I am sure the redesigned ES will get the 2GR-FKS, which will be even better.

It's good to hear that about the brakes. The transition from regenerative to traditional brakes is very noticeable on my Highlander Hybrid. I am okay with it now that I've gotten used to it, but it's definitely not a smooth transition.

LexBob2

I noticed that Consumer Reports also mentions the ESh brake feel ("touchy"). Like C&D it's the feel only and not the performance. Probably something you get used to.

zes

It has high boost, so needs a light foot on the pedal. One gets used to it after a couple of uses. But it is very linear. The deceleration is proportional to the force on the pedal.

My my dad used to have a 1968 Toyota Corona. It had drum brakes all around. I learned how to drive on that car. I remember the brakes were EXCEEDINGLY non linear. I remember I learned how to use the brakes with my big toe! Any higher force caused the front wheels to lock up. I learned how to do brake jobs when I was a teenager on that car. Also carburetor overhauls. It was a good car though. Three forward speeds. I could take it up to 60 in second gear, but not in front of my dad! Fastest I took it was 85. I remember it was very quiet and reliable relative to other cars of that era.

zes

The other funny thing is that they did not like the steering wheel. One of the reasons I bought my ES was that I loved the dash and the steering wheel. I think the ES steering wheel is one of the most beautiful wheels across the industry regardless of price or country of origin.

I think the the steering wheel of a car is the most important component because that is what the driver touches and holds all the time. It is the most intimate connection between the driver and the car. So it is a wonderful experience to hold a beautiful bamboo wheel, far more relaxing than a sticky leather wheel all jittery with something called 'road feel'. According to these mags, I am supposed to enjoy feeling the potholes in the wheel of a $47,000 car and if the manufacturer isolates me from feeling the potholes that is a bad thing!