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Upgrade 2013 300h radio to 14/15/16?

Old 04-17-17, 09:38 AM
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From what I remember from my research about a year ago its possible to update the 2013 radio with a newer model radio and there were some significant benefits in doing so. What's the highest year radio that I can put in my 2013? I have nav without ML. I was looking on car-parts.com for a 14 radio and there were a bunch of different variants, not sure which variant works with my car.
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Old 04-18-17, 11:28 PM
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i have the exact same question since the newer models have a different looking interface that i like. i was looking forward to going 14 to 16 if possible and i have the ML system
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Originally Posted by klooney
From what I remember from my research about a year ago its possible to update the 2013 radio with a newer model radio and there were some significant benefits in doing so. .
What are the specific benefits that you expect to see by moving from a 2013 radio to a newer one? I had a 2013 ES, and I now have a 2017 ES. Frankly, I don't see much difference between the radios in those two vehicles, and there certainly aren't any differences that I see that would justify any significant expense to switch out the radio to a newer one.
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Originally Posted by lesz
What are the specific benefits that you expect to see by moving from a 2013 radio to a newer one? I had a 2013 ES, and I now have a 2017 ES. Frankly, I don't see much difference between the radios in those two vehicles, and there certainly aren't any differences that I see that would justify any significant expense to switch out the radio to a newer one.
Newer maps and software, 2013 radios don't have a hard drive. The cost isn't that much too be honest.
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Originally Posted by klooney
Newer maps and software, 2013 radios don't have a hard drive. The cost isn't that much too be honest.
You can update the maps at your dealer.
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Originally Posted by lesz
What are the specific benefits that you expect to see by moving from a 2013 radio to a newer one? I had a 2013 ES, and I now have a 2017 ES. Frankly, I don't see much difference between the radios in those two vehicles, and there certainly aren't any differences that I see that would justify any significant expense to switch out the radio to a newer one.
i like the more rounded edges of whatever is on the display it just looks slightly more modern. Its really something we should be able to upgrade with a software update but of course we can't
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There are usability improvements as well as cosmetic ones... One thing I'm aware of is when you start the car and shift into reverse, the older nav system cuts off the camera with useless notices about your bluetooth connection, and your phone pairing, transferring, etc Meanwhile, the top part of the camera view and what you ACTUALLY care about is blocked by this text.

This may sound trivial, but the timing of this happening is inconsistent based on when your phone decides to finally connect and is a nuisance you have to deal with every time you need to start and have to back out.
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is there a place that actually has the factory systems for sale?
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Originally Posted by amphiprion
There are usability improvements as well as cosmetic ones... One thing I'm aware of is when you start the car and shift into reverse, the older nav system cuts off the camera with useless notices about your bluetooth connection, and your phone pairing, transferring, etc Meanwhile, the top part of the camera view and what you ACTUALLY care about is blocked by this text.

This may sound trivial, but the timing of this happening is inconsistent based on when your phone decides to finally connect and is a nuisance you have to deal with every time you need to start and have to back out.
I have a 2013 and you can turn off those notifications in the menu so they don't show at all. I don't recall exactly where in the menu to turn them off but you should be able to find it. The drop down notifications were driving me crazy too.
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Originally Posted by Mike728
You can update the maps at your dealer.
For the cost of a map update I can get a newer radio.
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Originally Posted by eastpoint
is there a place that actually has the factory systems for sale?
Bunch of places you can buy them. Car-part.com, ebay, online stores that carry them. Hard part is figuring out which model to purchase.
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Originally Posted by klooney
For the cost of a map update I can get a newer radio.
Well, good luck with that!
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I don't want to replace my 2013 radio but I checked to see how much it would be and found around $1300.00... Maybe less somewhere else but not worth it for me...
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Sourcing the head unit is the easy part. Getting it connected is another story. There's a decent chance the connectors behind the head unit are different with the different system generations as functions and controls change.
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So I did some digging around on car-parts.com and the internet for pictures of the rear of the 13/14/15/16 radios. It looks like the 13/14 radios have exactly the same connectors (no surprise here). I was only able to dig up a picture of the rear of a 16 radio and the number of connectors doubled although I'm not sure what variant of radio it is, might have premium audio. My guess is that the 15 and 16 radios are cross compatible so a 15 radio backside would look the same. My radio ID for my 13 is 100078 and according to Lexus the equivalent optioned 14 car's radio ID is 100362 (nav w/o premium audio). If anybody is able to get equivalent 15 or 16 pictures (nav w/o premium audio) or pictures of any of the radios with ML I would appreciate it.
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13 Radio (1st pic) 14 Radio (2nd pic)


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