2018 Lexus ES 350
#31
Hybrid acceleration needs an overhaul
I'd definitely like a bump in the acceleration on the hybrid model. I'm not sure why the accord hybrid has much better MPG AND acceleration. This to me is the biggest problem on the toyota/lexus hybrid systems - slow acceleration. Who here doesn't dread getting stuck behind a prius on an on ramp - trying to merge with highway traffic at 40 miles per hour. The 200CT only has an acceleration of 0-60 in 10.5 seconds - wtf? That is pathetic for a lexus. The IS Hybrid also begrudges accelerating but they don't even sell that in the US.
#32
I'd definitely like a bump in the acceleration on the hybrid model. I'm not sure why the accord hybrid has much better MPG AND acceleration. This to me is the biggest problem on the toyota/lexus hybrid systems - slow acceleration. Who here doesn't dread getting stuck behind a prius on an on ramp - trying to merge with highway traffic at 40 miles per hour. The 200CT only has an acceleration of 0-60 in 10.5 seconds - wtf? That is pathetic for a lexus. The IS Hybrid also begrudges accelerating but they don't even sell that in the US.
I have had both
the Prius has a smaller engine then the Camry, ES and Avalon they all have a 2.5
mine 2016 ES300h hauls butt and will dust a many on the freeway
will hit 100 fast has instant toque and infinite cvt
also the Honda has a V6 accord vs 4 cyl so it may be faster
2016 es300h
2015 nx300h
Last edited by pgiinc; 01-11-17 at 06:10 PM.
#34
I would guess that a 2019 model would be a new design and hope to see it myself maybe this time next year
Philip
#35
Lead Lap
On the other hand, I really liked my 2013 ES, and my 2017 ES is a noticeably nicer car than was the 2013. I think that the 2016 re-fresh of the ES was one of Lexus' better attempts at a mid-cycle re-fresh, and I think that they could successfully ride out the Generation 6 ES for a couple more years. So, even though I think that the Generation 7 ES will be available for the 2019 ES, I don't eliminate the possibility that it won't come until the 2020 model year.
#36
Lexus Fanatic
One of the big things I would like to see out of the next version of the ES is an AWD option. I think that would go a long way towards separating it from its more humble Toyota platform roots. Lacrosse is now AWD, etc...
#37
i hate the 2013-2017 "Remote Touch" Navigation system. i created a whole thread on it. i hope they switch to the Touchpad like in the NX or RC and/or bring back the Touchscreen as a complement. i like the new spindle grille of the newer model and hope they continue in that more aggressive direction for 2019.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...ology-imo.html
Remote Touch Navigation is terrible and backwards technology IMO
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/car...ology-imo.html
#38
Lexus Fanatic
Have you used the touchpad? It's basically the same.
They went to the touchpad on the 5LS so I assume they will for the next ES too
They went to the touchpad on the 5LS so I assume they will for the next ES too
#39
Pole Position
Our NX has the touchpad. The NX forums have plenty of complaints about the touchpad too. I can't honestly say I like one better than the other. Just my opinion of course. I liked the touchscreen in some of my former Priuses, but then I am a bit OCD and couldn't stand the fingerprints. Each style pointer has pros and cons but I don't see than one is clearly superior to any other.
#40
no. i've used the RTI but not the new Touchpad. it seems that the Touchpad is more precise than the RTI. personally, i prefer the old style Touchscreen despite the arguments against it. the world today is Touchscreen - phones, tablets, laptops, etc.
#41
Lexus Fanatic
It's basically the same. It's just using a touchpad vs a joystick. End result is the same.
#42
have you driven a Es300h or a hybrid Avalon ???
I have had both
the Prius has a smaller engine then the Camry, ES and Avalon they all have a 2.5
mine 2016 ES300h hauls butt and will dust a many on the freeway
will hit 100 fast has instant toque and infinite cvt
also the Honda has a V6 accord vs 4 cyl so it may be faster
2016 es300h
2015 nx300h
I have had both
the Prius has a smaller engine then the Camry, ES and Avalon they all have a 2.5
mine 2016 ES300h hauls butt and will dust a many on the freeway
will hit 100 fast has instant toque and infinite cvt
also the Honda has a V6 accord vs 4 cyl so it may be faster
2016 es300h
2015 nx300h
#43
I agree they should make the GPS touch screen AND some other thing instead of touchpad or joystick or **** only. The reviews are always something it only takes a few days to get use to the (insert interface here) and it will almost be as intuitive as a touch screen. Almost as... is a term I don't want in things I own. It is almost as good as a roof that doesn't leak... It is almost as good as a reliable car... It is almost as fast as a new computer... It is almost as good of an investment as... If I'm buying something used - I can live with almost as but if I'm buying new I want it to be what it should be. Is it going to kill sales on a $2000 GPS (absurd markup) to include a $20 touchscreen?
#44
Lead Lap
I agree they should make the GPS touch screen AND some other thing instead of touchpad or joystick or **** only. The reviews are always something it only takes a few days to get use to the (insert interface here) and it will almost be as intuitive as a touch screen. Almost as... is a term I don't want in things I own. It is almost as good as a roof that doesn't leak... It is almost as good as a reliable car... It is almost as fast as a new computer... It is almost as good of an investment as... If I'm buying something used - I can live with almost as but if I'm buying new I want it to be what it should be. Is it going to kill sales on a $2000 GPS (absurd markup) to include a $20 touchscreen?
Thus, if I borrow your thinking, I don't want to pay $45,000 for a car with a touch screen that is "almost as good" as one with a touch pad or mouse controlled screen. I can accept your preference for a touch screen, but it would be nice if, at least, you would acknowledge the fact that there are real reasons why others would have a preference different from yours.
#45
Lexus Fanatic
Currently owning a car with the remote touch and a car with a touchscreen, I prefer the remote touch.