Sidetracked- Toyota Prius?
06-20-16, 12:59 PM
#31
I drove my car normally without trying to be a hyper-miler squeezing every last yard out of a gallon of gas, and I averaged 35 - 36 mpg throughout. A little less in winter with the fuel mix and more in the warmer months. Gas is not going to stay around $3 a gallon over the life of your ownership, but it will take several years to recoup the extra cost.
I drive into NYC every day (about 60 miles R/T) and fill up every two weeks. I love that about the car.
I drive into NYC every day (about 60 miles R/T) and fill up every two weeks. I love that about the car.
06-20-16, 01:13 PM
#32
I purchased my ES300h in January 2013. My calculated average MPG for all fuel used is 36.0. 100% around town.
I traded in my 2006 RX300 to purchase this car. To date I have purchased $2,153.02 in gas. My RX got 18 mpg doing the same commute so I have saved $2,153.02 in gas cost so far compared to keeping my RX. I plan on keeping my ES for as long as it runs.
I traded in my 2006 RX300 to purchase this car. To date I have purchased $2,153.02 in gas. My RX got 18 mpg doing the same commute so I have saved $2,153.02 in gas cost so far compared to keeping my RX. I plan on keeping my ES for as long as it runs.
06-20-16, 01:13 PM
#33
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nice to hear. yeah if I go with lexus i'll be sticking with the ES350, but with prius i'll be going with a more economical car so gotta decide with the priorites are long term
I drove my car normally without trying to be a hyper-miler squeezing every last yard out of a gallon of gas, and I averaged 35 - 36 mpg throughout. A little less in winter with the fuel mix and more in the warmer months. Gas is not going to stay around $3 a gallon over the life of your ownership, but it will take several years to recoup the extra cost.
I drive into NYC every day (about 60 miles R/T) and fill up every two weeks. I love that about the car.
I drive into NYC every day (about 60 miles R/T) and fill up every two weeks. I love that about the car.
06-20-16, 02:12 PM
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Choosing between a 2016 ES or a 2016 Prius will all boil down to your personal preference. As I have stated, I currently have a 2015 ES350 as well as a 2011 Prius III.
I use my Prius primarily for business. I can take it anywhere in Southern California and not worry about parking it and people tripping on the "L" emblem. I visit clients from South Central Los Angeles to East LA to SGV to San Bernardino to Temecula. Is it exciting to drive? NO! Is it comfortable to drive for extended periods? NO! But it gets me from Point A to Point B, and I don't get the negative attention when I have to go to less desirable neighborhoods. There is a 5-year gap between my 2011 Prius and the new 2016 Prius. Have I checked out the new Prius models? No. Would I consider buying one right now? NO! The value is just not there. I should have bought a Corolla or a 4-banger Camry to use for my business (I was using a 2002 IS300 SportCross for the business prior to getting the Prius).
The ES350, on the other hand, is a large car; spacious, comfortable, quiet, excellent seats and engine response when needed. I currently have 5 vehicles at the moment, and the ES350 and the GX460 are the most comfortable vehicles of the 5.
Will you get more value for your money by buying an ES300h hybrid ? Will the money you save on gasoline be worth the extra premium you're going to pay for the ES300h hybrid? How many miles of driving will it take for you to be able to recover the premium you paid for an ES300h instead of getting an ES350? Only you can answer those questions.
I use my Prius primarily for business. I can take it anywhere in Southern California and not worry about parking it and people tripping on the "L" emblem. I visit clients from South Central Los Angeles to East LA to SGV to San Bernardino to Temecula. Is it exciting to drive? NO! Is it comfortable to drive for extended periods? NO! But it gets me from Point A to Point B, and I don't get the negative attention when I have to go to less desirable neighborhoods. There is a 5-year gap between my 2011 Prius and the new 2016 Prius. Have I checked out the new Prius models? No. Would I consider buying one right now? NO! The value is just not there. I should have bought a Corolla or a 4-banger Camry to use for my business (I was using a 2002 IS300 SportCross for the business prior to getting the Prius).
The ES350, on the other hand, is a large car; spacious, comfortable, quiet, excellent seats and engine response when needed. I currently have 5 vehicles at the moment, and the ES350 and the GX460 are the most comfortable vehicles of the 5.
Will you get more value for your money by buying an ES300h hybrid ? Will the money you save on gasoline be worth the extra premium you're going to pay for the ES300h hybrid? How many miles of driving will it take for you to be able to recover the premium you paid for an ES300h instead of getting an ES350? Only you can answer those questions.
06-20-16, 02:26 PM
#35
We have an ES350 and a Prius V in the driveway.
Take a good look at the Prius V instead of the regular Prius. Quite a bit more room and versatability and the size of the back seat leg room is fantastic. Rear seats recline as well.
Great car. I am in Canada and here the V outsells the regular Prius, but I know in the US it is the other way around . Had it for 3 years and very cheap upkeep and nary a problem
Take a good look at the Prius V instead of the regular Prius. Quite a bit more room and versatability and the size of the back seat leg room is fantastic. Rear seats recline as well.
Great car. I am in Canada and here the V outsells the regular Prius, but I know in the US it is the other way around . Had it for 3 years and very cheap upkeep and nary a problem
06-20-16, 02:30 PM
#36
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I'll take a good look at all the great points everyone has taken the time to respond with, Thank you! I know you have to drive a lot of different cars to get the point where you can share the pros and cons and I appreciate all of you sharing that with me, thanks for the help
06-20-16, 04:38 PM
#37
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prosgal73 are you far away fro m the Lexus dealership or something? Just asking because a lot of your questions can only be answered by you driving the vehicles yourself. It's hard for people to tell you how to feel.
But it could be that, like me, you don't have a dealership nearby. I just had to make the time on a Saturday to go try the car for myself. No one could have described to me how the car would fit me personally in regards to size, blind spots, comfort, etc. Same with my husband. He would have gone with the IS, ES, or GS based on internet queries. But for both of us after sitting in the ES we knew it was the right choice for us. I was wanting a smaller car as well, but so far I haven't had any difficulty with the ES size. I mean a backup camera is standard and you can get park assist.
But it could be that, like me, you don't have a dealership nearby. I just had to make the time on a Saturday to go try the car for myself. No one could have described to me how the car would fit me personally in regards to size, blind spots, comfort, etc. Same with my husband. He would have gone with the IS, ES, or GS based on internet queries. But for both of us after sitting in the ES we knew it was the right choice for us. I was wanting a smaller car as well, but so far I haven't had any difficulty with the ES size. I mean a backup camera is standard and you can get park assist.
06-20-16, 09:08 PM
#38
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Talinder I have test driven it but a bit big thus all the reservations but I think maybe going on a second test drive might be worthwhile with all the reservations I have. Great car but ease of driving isn't quite there since I've been used to much more compact cars but honestly I don't think it's worth it to get an IS 200t if the ES has all those safety features And seems to be more car for the money, I considered the 200t but everyone's steering me to ES so that's why I'm wavering....honestly hadn't considered the ES until recently. Thanks but yes it's something I have to figure out myself and be comfortable with
prosgal73 are you far away fro m the Lexus dealership or something? Just asking because a lot of your questions can only be answered by you driving the vehicles yourself. It's hard for people to tell you how to feel.
But it could be that, like me, you don't have a dealership nearby. I just had to make the time on a Saturday to go try the car for myself. No one could have described to me how the car would fit me personally in regards to size, blind spots, comfort, etc. Same with my husband. He would have gone with the IS, ES, or GS based on internet queries. But for both of us after sitting in the ES we knew it was the right choice for us. I was wanting a smaller car as well, but so far I haven't had any difficulty with the ES size. I mean a backup camera is standard and you can get park assist.
But it could be that, like me, you don't have a dealership nearby. I just had to make the time on a Saturday to go try the car for myself. No one could have described to me how the car would fit me personally in regards to size, blind spots, comfort, etc. Same with my husband. He would have gone with the IS, ES, or GS based on internet queries. But for both of us after sitting in the ES we knew it was the right choice for us. I was wanting a smaller car as well, but so far I haven't had any difficulty with the ES size. I mean a backup camera is standard and you can get park assist.
06-21-16, 05:20 AM
#39
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Talinder I have test driven it but a bit big thus all the reservations but I think maybe going on a second test drive might be worthwhile with all the reservations I have. Great car but ease of driving isn't quite there since I've been used to much more compact cars but honestly I don't think it's worth it to get an IS 200t if the ES has all those safety features And seems to be more car for the money, I considered the 200t but everyone's steering me to ES so that's why I'm wavering....honestly hadn't considered the ES until recently. Thanks but yes it's something I have to figure out myself and be comfortable with
06-21-16, 06:17 AM
#40
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Whether or not the ES is more car for the money than the IS is a matter of taste. The IS has a lot of handling prowess, better chassis, it's a RWD setup, it's a more dynamic car, sportier car. If those things are important to you the IS is the car that is more car for the money. They're just different.
People here are saying that because this is the ES forum. If you asked in the IS forum there would be plenty of people that would never even consider an ES.
People here are saying that because this is the ES forum. If you asked in the IS forum there would be plenty of people that would never even consider an ES.
06-21-16, 12:29 PM
#41
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True true, I think the 200T has worst gas mileage than the ES based on your input here though so that's what I'm also evaluating but yes handling would be compromised
Whether or not the ES is more car for the money than the IS is a matter of taste. The IS has a lot of handling prowess, better chassis, it's a RWD setup, it's a more dynamic car, sportier car. If those things are important to you the IS is the car that is more car for the money. They're just different.
People here are saying that because this is the ES forum. If you asked in the IS forum there would be plenty of people that would never even consider an ES.
People here are saying that because this is the ES forum. If you asked in the IS forum there would be plenty of people that would never even consider an ES.
06-21-16, 12:34 PM
#42
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Fuel economy should be about the same, perhaps slightly better on the IS200t, difference is it requires premium fuel.
06-21-16, 12:50 PM
#43
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06-21-16, 07:02 PM
#44
If cost were an issue , I would still much rather get a couple year old ES (personally I would get a certified pre owned) than a new Prius
Comfort and quietness are important to me and the ES excels in these areas.
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